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Streetcar Construction Not Your Typical Rail Project

By Eric Richardson
Published: Friday, April 18, 2008, at 07:54AM

Portland Streetcar Trip Eric Richardson [Flickr]

LADOT's Mike Bagheri and the Planning Department's Urban Design Studio head Emily Gabel Luddy check out the streetcar bed.

One of the most interesting things presented in yesterday's talks about the Portland Streetcar was the pace of construction. Mike Powell, owner of massive Portland bookstore Powell's Books, told the delegation how he was originally opposed to the project, which was scheduled to run on two sides of his store.

His experience with rail construction was the work for Portland's light rail line, the MAX. There the street had been torn up for long stretches during construction, and Powell worried that the disruption would kill his business.

The timeline for streetcar construction? One block per week, with only the lane under construction taken out of service. Both the street and sidewalk remained open.

After becoming convinced himself, Powell became a salesman for the line. When he would encounter a property owner who brought up the disruption question, Powell would tell them one thing. "Go to the beach for one week, and when you come back your property will be worth 50% more." Yesterday he told the L.A. group that his statement wasn't correct. "I was wrong about the 50%. It ended up being 300%."

The streetcar bed is only 8 feet wide and shallow enough to avoid utilities disruption. Utilities relocation can become one of the largest expenses in a rail construction project.

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Scott Mercer on April 18, 2008, at 10:41AM – #1

Excellent points...isn't this how the Los Angeles Railway and the Pacific Electric could afford to place massively long trackbeds (one of the LA Railway lines was almost 20 miles long) in the streets of Los Angeles in the 1910's?

But such long in-city lines are not what we want the streetcars for: ideally they should take over the function of the DASH buses, and remain mostly in Downtown proper. They should probably be arranged in a loop which would be well under 10 miles, maybe 6 or 7.


Eric Richardson (@blogdowntown) on April 18, 2008, at 12:03PM – #2

One of my favorite phrases from yesterday: the streetcar is a "walk extender."

On the history side you're right. I was reading about one dispute in south L.A. where Pacific Electric ran several miles of shoddy track one day while city officials were off at some gathering. The city tore it up and guarded it to make sure they couldn't rebuild in secret.


 

Rich Alossi on April 18, 2008, at 03:47PM – #3

If we can't even get toilets up and running in a timely manner, I wonder how long it would take to do a streetcar.

Everything in LA takes longer than necessary.


 

James Lin on April 22, 2008, at 03:52PM – #4

This streetcar idea is exactly what downtown LA needs. As Rich Alossi states though, getting through the LA beauracracy may take years. Why can't we create a more efficient system like other cities for fast-tracking projects?



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