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Digging History at Broadway Place

By Eric Richardson
Published: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, at 09:23AM
Broadway Place Construction Eric Richardson []

Long-abandoned streetcar tracks are revealed beneath partially torn up Broadway Place.



Work on a triangular plot of land at Broadway and Olympic burst into the news on July 14, when a busted water main sent a river down Main Street.

The story of one of Downtown’s oddest blocks began in 1919, though, when Broadway was extended from 10th Street – today known as Olympic – down to Pico. The street’s former southern end, a diagonal connection to Main Street, was officially renamed to Broadway Place that same year.

The extension had long been a priority for the city, but protests by property owners in the route of the new street stalled the effort. The city eventually had to use condemnation proceedings to take land on 10th and 11th for the street.

New double streetcar tracks on the Broadway extension were estimated to divert 963 cars each day off Main Street, which was already carrying Spring Street’s cars.

Broadway continued its southern push in 1931, when it was extended well south of Downtown. Broadway Place, meanwhile, continued to stretch just 330 feet. It stayed on the maps, though, as one of Downtown’s odder little streets.

Streetcars, and later busses, did continue to use Broadway Place at least through the 1950s.

In 2003 property owner L&R Investments, owners of Joe’s Parking Lots, petitioned the city for a “vacation,” an action that would give up the public’s right to the land and allow it to revert to the property owner. In the documents, the city said that the land is "unnecessary for present or prospective public use" and that it is "not needed for nonmotorized transportation purposes."

The City Council adopted the vacation action in November of that year, but the conditions that it placed on L&R were never fulfilled. Regardless, the street was blocked off and striped to become a part of the parking lot the company operated next door.

In 2008 the council re-approved the vacation, which had expired the previous year.
It was another 18 months before work began on the site, and it quickly halted after the water main break. Little has changed on the parcel in the last few weeks, leaving it fenced off and the old roadway only partially removed.

The street may finally be disappearing, but not before some of its history comes back into view. Streetcar tracks now poke out of the ground near Broadway, a reminder of those cars that once crowded onto Main.

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Guest 1

Guest on August 25, 2010, at 09:40AM – #1

Olympic is one of the worst streets in Downtown in my opinion. There's nothing but parking lots on many of these blocks. There's even a new parking lot under construction just east of the 110. Something needs to be done about this whole corridor.


User_32

on August 25, 2010, at 11:21AM – #2

nice article


User_32

Jim Shafer on August 25, 2010, at 11:27AM – #3

Eric, I'm a little confused. This will continue to be a lot run by Joe's Parking Lots, right? If so, it seems like a missed opportunity. I was hoping this land would be nicely landscaped like the triangular lot where Main and Alameda split close to Philippe's. Even if the city made money by selling the former street to L&R, wouldn't it have made more sense to keep potential park/plaza space in public hands?


User_32

J-M on August 25, 2010, at 12:43PM – #4

Thanks, Eric. Interesting article. So often, we see the blight and we forget the history.


User_32

David McBane on August 25, 2010, at 03:24PM – #5

@Jim Shafer - The City did sell the old street (and did not make any money on this deal) since the City did not own the street. The City just had an easement for public access for street purposes. So the City just gave-up (officially "vacated") their easement. The benefits for vacating the easement for the City and its taxpaying people is that the City will no longer have to pay for the street maintenance the property is placed back on the property tax roll. Finally, Joe's will continue to run their parking lot. They vacated this street so they could expand their lot.


User_32

David McBane on August 25, 2010, at 03:26PM – #6

Crap - my first sentence was supposed to read "The City did NOT sell the old street..."


Guest 2

Guest on August 25, 2010, at 03:59PM – #7

It should be pointed out that the City did have parking meters along this stretch that were used by people going to the the Post Office. Joe's has been selling those spaces on a City street since 2003 without making any improvements at all. How does that work? I would argue that the street did have some value to the public. What about as a station for the new downtown tram? Did anybody even consider that? Maybe the CRA should have used eminent domain on the whole block and turned it into a park...Joe's parking has been politically connected since the Bradley administration. They pretty much get what they want downtown.


Guest 3

Guest on August 25, 2010, at 09:37PM – #8

Surprise! The soil under the train tracks is probably toxic. I wonder if Joe budgeted for toxic waste disposal???


Guest 4

Guest on August 25, 2010, at 10:26PM – #9

Question...was Joe's formerly Allied Parking?


User_32

Jim Shafer on August 25, 2010, at 11:43PM – #10

Thanks for your explanation, David. I still wish we were getting a park there instead of parking, though!


Guest 5

Guest on August 26, 2010, at 04:48AM – #11

And did anyone check to see whether Joe's is current in its payment of taxes to the City before agreeing to anything since parking lot operators were and are some of the worst offenders in fees and back taxes owed to the City? They seem to collect taxes on parking fees but do not forward them (or all of them) on to the City as required.

Take a look at the list of those owing funds to the City...


User_32

on August 26, 2010, at 05:39AM – #12

Just bring street cars back and that would eliminate lot's of traffic.

John Apodaca www.daddyosmartinis.com


Guest 6

Guest on August 26, 2010, at 03:30PM – #13

It's a shame to see how much public transportation there USED to be in L.A. compared to today. No doubt the auto and oil industries had something to do with the switch. I hope that as our city unearths these street car tracks, it plants a seed that street cars and other public transportation methods we used to have shouldn't stay a thing of the past so that we can move toward cleaner air and less traffic than we have now.


Guest 3

Guest on August 26, 2010, at 07:37PM – #14

You know all of those street car companies were private companies. One after another they went out of business in LA because they didn't make any money. I'm talking 50 years before GM sealed their fate! Also, I find it interesting that so many people think that it would be easier to get around downtown with 1000 street cars a day rolling through traffic. I think if this was 1925 a lot of you would not be so happy about the traffic situation. A tram system today would serve a completely different purpose. It would serve as a symbolic long term commitment to community revitalization. In the meantime, a dash bus should be experimenting with a circulator route. The data collected would help convince investors to support a rail route.


Guest 2

Guest on August 31, 2010, at 02:50PM – #15

Note to City Council and voters..... poorly maintained surface parking lots with NO public amenities are BLIGHT. It is ironic that we have a Downtown Community Revitalization project, yet the Council Office seems to support the expansion of blight.. Where is the vision for downtown??


Guest 7

Guest on September 13, 2010, at 12:21PM – #16

Complaining about how car and oil companies boned LA in terms of public transport isn't very productive nor is the complete picture. According to record, people often complained of buses and trams being crowded and dirty. Maybe this is the same strategy of people today who like to use the "there's no public transport in Los Angeles" when in fact, there is a massive public transport system.

The best way of making Los Angeles a less car-polluted city and one with an even better public transport system is to use it.

Use the subway, use the busses, and demand more from the MTA. Stop using lazy excuses why not to use public transportation and instead use it regularly and demand that it become the system you want it to be. Want free Wi-Fi on busses and in the MTA platforms? Demand it.


Joel Covarrubias on September 29, 2010, at 08:49AM – #17

Yes ridership on the old streetcars decreased over the years: this was largely due to disinvestment in the streetcars by the private companies that ran them. A public investment would have certainly helped. Especially given all of the free public funds that were given to highway and road construction during those years. Public transportation is a public good and should also receive public funding.

National City Lines was organized as a holding company by GM specifically to buy up and trash the streetcars in cities across the country, including Los Angeles (Yellow Cars). That company and its owners were convicted of this, it's a matter of public record.



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