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The Historic Theatre Dream on Broadway

By Eric Richardson
Published: Monday, August 23, 2010, at 09:24AM
United Artists Theatre, Los Angeles Wendell F. Benedetti []

The ornate inside of the United Artists theatre, currently for sale on Broadway.



Hillsman Wright and the have a dream for Broadway’s old movie palaces. Right now the group is trying to find a buyer to purchase the Spanish gothic-styled United Artists Theatre and lease it to the nonprofit. We asked Wright about the challenge for the August 12th issue of blogdowntown Weekly.

The UA has been on the open market for eight months now. Why hasn’t it sold?

In the best of real estate markets, a 12-story office building and 1600-seat movie palace combo is a highly specialized property. Pastor Scott places a high priority on finding a buyer who will respect the historical integrity and take care of the building and theatre and make a positive contribution to the revitalization of Broadway. Some adjustments from the original pricing have been made recently to better reflect the current Downtown market.

What’s the upside for a buyer to come in and lease to you? Could they still turn a profit?

There are many owner/developers with strong track records in profitably restoring and rehabbing historic office buildings. On the other hand, the list of accomplished, successful private owner/operators of for-profit historic theatres is very short. If a benefactor to purchase the entire United Artists parcel for the LAHTF (and/or another non-profit operator) does not materialize, we’d be very interested in working out a deal with a partner to buy the property and set up a lease-purchase deal for the theatre. The developer could potentially make money on the office building piece and recoup some of the purchase price by splitting the theatre from the parcel.

So, yes, it is feasible that a private investor could buy the building, lease or sell the theatre to the LAHTF, and make a profit.

How would a revived United Artists compete with a theater like the Orpheum? Are enough shows interested in coming to Broadway to keep multiple screens and stages busy?

A revived United Artists Theatre would serve more to complement the Orpheum than to compete with it.

The Orpheum has about 400 more seats than the UA, which will always be a solid advantage to a for-profit promoter. The Orpheum operates strictly as a rental house - it does not produce and present shows. It rents the theatre to promoters, producers and film locations, who bear the expense of producing/promoting the event and they collect the profits or suffer the losses from the event presented.

This model works for the Orpheum, but means that often the theatre is not booked for days/weeks at a time.

The goal of non-profit operation of the UA (and other Broadway theatres) would be to keep the theatre overhead very low and to activate the theatre by keeping it lit and busy as much as possible. A combination of rental users, shows we produce (i.e. film series, premieres and special events), and shows the LAHTF would present or co-present with promoters, sponsors and underwriters. This fare could include a popular priced Broadway subscription series, dance - fine arts series, major speakers and all manner of music and concerts. Profitable show would subsidize shows that lose money.

The key to keeping the UA overhead low is to raise money from public and private sources to fund the purchase, restoration and rehabilitation, so the theatre is brought up to modern production requirements and is bought and paid for. There’s a huge body of experience around the country that proves this concept. If freed of the debt service for purchase, restoration and re-hab, the theatre can operate on a breakeven or better basis. There are 10 more theatres to fully activate on the street.

When successful at the United Artists, the LAHTF could take on the management and operation of several other theatres on the street using this model and the economies of scale that central management and operation would afford. If all 12 theatres on the street are privately operated, who will ensure that all 12 are not dark at the same time for days or weeks?

Finally, Broadway producers and promotors will go wherever they think they can make money. Thanks to Steve Needleman and the Orpheum, it has been proved that there is money to be made on Broadway’s historic stages and screens.

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David Klappholz on August 24, 2010, at 12:35PM – #1

  1. Aren't many of the 12 theaters almost totally gutted, and "theaters" only in the sense of being buildings with marquees?

  2. As much as I love Broadway and would love to see it come back to where it once was, does anyone really believe that twelve venues, or even three or four of them could possibly be active (almost) every night in the coming decade or two?

I'd love to be strongly contradicted, so please have at it!!!


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David Klappholz on August 24, 2010, at 12:36PM – #2

PS Thanks for the great lofts tour on Saturday, Eric. Regards Dave


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Russell Brown on August 24, 2010, at 02:34PM – #3

The Los Angeles, State, Palace, Tower, Globe, United Artist, Orpheum and Million Dollar are all in good shape and are presently open and being used for events. Some are finished, some would need a good amount of work. All are intact and much more than facades with marquees. theatrs

The Mayan and the Belasco are in great shape with the Belasco opening soon after a $10 million rehab.

The complex of the Arcade, Cameo and Roxy would need significant work. The Olympic and Rialto also would need work.

So 8 theatres can easily be up and running plus the 2 more on Hill Street.


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Ken Hall on August 24, 2010, at 04:17PM – #4

Russell,

Any word or chance that the Warner Bros. Theater (401 W. 7th St), could be used again?...It looks beautiful from what I can see on the inside (it's currently used as a jewelry store). It looks like it's in pretty good shape.


Nick Matonak on August 24, 2010, at 04:33PM – #5

Here's a list of the theatres, capacities and possibilities. Yes. It is not unreasonable to expect that in the 2nd largest city in the US, capital of the Pacific Rim etc that we could effectively and profitably program 12 theatres - not all at once immediately. Gotta start now to develop the audience.

  • United Artists (1926) – 1800 seat multi-use venue
  • Grauman’s Million Dollar Theatre (1918) – 2000 seat multi-use venue
  • Arcade/Pantages (1910) – 1000 seat jewel box multi-use theatre
  • Cameo (1910) – Special event space, film theatre, Lobby space for Arcade & Roxie
  • Roxie (1931) – raw exhibition and special event space (original capacity 1800)
  • Grauman’s Rialto (1917) – 500 seat multi-use performance space
  • Pantages/Warner Bros.(1921) – night club/ supper club/ concert venue (2000+)
  • Broadway Arts Center - Privately owned and operated
  • Orpheum ( seat multi-use venue – Broadway, concerts, film, locations
  • Los Angeles * ( seat concert hall – all types of music and film“
  • Palace* ( seat Broadway house – touring shows and long sit-downs
  • Tower* ( seat multi-use venue – concerts, cabaret, film, nightclub
  • State* (1921) currently leased to Church – 2400 seat Broadway/concert venue (Will require major stage and support expansion into Woolworth building.)
  • Globe/Morosco (1913) – (740 Club) nightclub – potential 1500 seat legit house
  • Mayan (1927) – nightclub and concert venue
  • Belasco (1926) – nightclub, restaurants, special events venue
  • Olympic (1927) – 700 seat multi-use space
  • Embassy (1903?)– 1500 concert hall and ballroom
  • Regent – Main Street survivor

Note: * = owned by the Delijani family who plan to renovate and operate theatres privately


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Russell Brown on August 24, 2010, at 11:28PM – #6

The Warner Theatre is never discussed as part of the mix. It is not on Broadway and as you stated, is used for jewelry. But if the owner was willing.

Nick's list is pretty complete. I would imagine Hillsman Wright, LA Conservancy, Ed Kelsey or tothers can add in more info.

This just shows the opportunity for so many theaters with so many different kind of uses. Legitimate theatre, specialty movies, concerts, wrestling, movie premeires, filming locations, special events, lectures and seminars, dance and other performances, music clubs, night clubs, churches, cabarets, burlesque, revival shows.

All will need to be part of the mix.


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on August 25, 2010, at 08:15AM – #7

Operating theatres bring business to a neighborhood. Restaurants, bars, clubs. Disney Hall and the music center draw and audience why not Broadway.



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