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Are you ready for some gridlock? AEG's stadium relies heavily on public transportation

By Jose Martinez
Published: Friday, April 06, 2012, at 10:49AM
downtown traffic Rain/Flickr Creative Commons

AEG's stadium proposal assumes that nearly a fourth of fans will leave their cars at home and use public transportation. (Credit: Rain/Flickr Creative Commons)

The stadium proposal put forth by Anschultz Entertainment Group (AEG) would require a tiny change in behavior from L.A. football fans: 25 percent of fans would need to come without a car on weekdays.

Sorry, did we say tiny?

The Los Angeles Times that AEG's proposal depends on a fourth of fans leaving theirs cars at home and taking public transportation. The firm, which expects 19,000 cars to flood downtown for games at the not-yet-approved Farmers Field, is hoping to convince ticket buyers to travel on the Metro Blue Line, the Expo Line (which will be at the end of this month) and other methods of public transportation.

But Los Angeles has a well-known reputation as a car town – which is why AEG president and CEO Tim Leiweke's confidence that 5,000 or more ticket buyers would walk or bike to weekday evening games was more than a little surprising.

"We have to change people's habits from the day they buy their first ticket to Farmers Field," he told the Times.

The environmental impact report for the stadium on Thursday, and it assumes that upwards of 18 percent of ticket buyers will show up at weekend events without their cars. For weekday games, that goes up to 27 percent.

Skeptics include Victor Citrin, a downtown resident who spoke with the L.A. Times.

"This is Los Angeles," he said. "This city was built around the car. For somebody to come here from Buena Park on public transit – I don't think it's going to happen."

But Ryan Snyder, a transportation planning consultant and a lecturer at UCLA, said he's "willing to believe those numbers" and hopes that AEG focuses less on freeway improvements and more on bus-only lanes on roads leading to the stadium.

The proposed stadium site is close to the already-notorious 10 and 110 freeway junction. But Leiweke said AEG will incentivize public transit use by giving ticket buyers discounts and maybe even bumping them up in line.

AEG has $35 million allotted toward planned transportation improvements, $10 million of which will upgrade the Blue Line station on nearby Pico Boulevard. The Times reports another $2.4 million will go toward adding a lane on the northbound 101 freeway between the downtown four-level interchange and Alvarado Street.

The numbers in the report are daunting, though. After Saturday games, for example, "unavoidable" congestion would be felt at 42 intersections – that would go up to 72 for weekday games.

"No feasible physical improvement mitigation measures were identified for these impacts," read the report.

AEG is hoping for a City Council vote of approval by the end of summer. Billionaire Philip Anschultz's dollars are helping to fuel AEG's drive to get the stadium approved – he has said he's willing to pay for a football team in Los Angeles if it will make the stadium deal work.

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DenOfLosAngeles on April 06, 2012, at 12:03PM – #1

Those naysayers again. They said the same thing when Staples Center was being proposed and nothing became of it even when something was going on at both Nokia Plaza and Staples Center at the same time. Since then Los Angeles has improved on the city's mass transit system and more people are using subways, buses and light rail systems (me included) especially now since the price of gas has gone way up.


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derblut on April 06, 2012, at 12:46PM – #2

I expect this kind of title from the LA times. A lot more people work downtown on any given weekday and it works, so there's really no argument. City council loves it because it's a job creator.


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Dion on April 06, 2012, at 03:51PM – #3

really? this is the best blogdowntown could do? basically copying an LA Times article? the traffic concerns are wayyyy overblown. already, many people take the train to Lakers, Clippers and Kings games, and with the expanding network (hello expo) expect this number to go way up.


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on April 06, 2012, at 05:59PM – #4

And HOW MANY people drive into and out of Downtown for work each weekday? Just imagine all of the additional business which would accrue at favored restaurants in the central city area on game day Sundays.


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DC Spring St on April 07, 2012, at 10:10AM – #5

You people are incredibly naive. Traffic in downtown and on the freeways around it is definitely worse when there are Lakers, Clippers and Kings games.


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on April 08, 2012, at 10:47AM – #6

Frankly, I wouldn't care if the new stadium were to cause gridlock at Olympic & Fig 24-7. Just think of all the added business there would be for tow truck drivers, watering holes, rent-a-portapotties and psychiatrists!

And speaking of psychiatrists, whoever decided that the future (2030 estimated completion date) Purple LIne should terminate at the Wadsworth V.A. hospital rather than downtown Santa Monica NEEDS ONE!


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on April 11, 2012, at 11:15AM – #7

I think expecting 25% of attendees who come to a game after work to take public transport is unrealistic, even though YES a lot of people do work downtown and they'd be here already and YES a lot more people do take light rail than used to be the case.

DC Spring is right about the traffic, too. If you don't live on this side of DTLA you may not be aware of/concerned about the traffic, but my husband has to check the schedule of Lakers etc games every night to see how much extra time he has to allow for his commute to work. It makes a significant difference to how long it takes to get through just the few miles of getting out of downtown.

I'm also OK with blogdowntown covering this even if the LA Times is doing so too. After all, this blog is about local events and this is a darn big local event. I don't always get around to reading the Times but I always read blogdowntown.

And as long as I'm being all grumpy about the situation, I will reiterate that I still don't see why we need this stadium right here. I'm not a football fan so I get that my view of the whole sport and the importance of LA having our own team again is different from many people, so I'm not disputing that. But I don't buy what the official line is about the number of jobs it creates and that such a big space would actually get used for much else besides ensuring yet more acres of empty parking lots on non-game days. Bah humbug, I say.


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David McBane on April 12, 2012, at 09:08AM – #8

Jasmijn - Since the football games are almost always played on Sundays, this won't really impact your husband's commute.

Secondly, you are concerned about unused acres of empty parking lots. Have you even looked at any of the plans for the stadium? There is almost no new parking built and the parking that is being built is structured parking replacing other structured parking that needs to be moved out of the way for the stadium.

Which brings us to exactly why it has to be built right here. The big reason for no new parking is that the area is served by a lot of public transit and has a huge amount of parking already in the area within walking distance.

But the biggest reason is that this stadium will be integrated with L.A. Live and the reconfigured Convention Center. There is literally no other spot that would allow this kind of integration.



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