Trees with a History?

By Eric Richardson
Published: Wednesday, November 21, 2007, at 05:22PM

City Hall Palm Trees Eric Richardson

In June of 1934 a group of palm trees were brought from MacArthur Park (then Westlake Park) and planted next to City Hall's Spring street steps. The Times wrote:

Eight large cocos plumosas palm trees, planted in Westlake Park nearly twenty years ago, yesterday were removed on trucks to the Spring-street entrance of the City Hall, where they are being replanted, four on each side of the entrance, to carry out the tropical idea in landscaping City Hall lawns adopted by the Park Commission last summer. The trees were in the route for the fill being made to extend Wilshire Boulevard through the park. The replanting is being done under the direction of Landscape Engineer Roewekamp.

A group of very old palms stands in much the same spot today, a cluster of trees on either side of the steps. Could these be the same palms moved Downtown in 1934? If indeed they are the same, the trees would need to be approaching 100 years old, and a few of these do indeed look quite aged.

A few more photos after the jump.

Palms in 1934

City Hall Palms -- 1934

Palms Today

City Hall Palm Trees

City Hall Palm Trees

City Hall Palm Trees



Comments

1
Karen writes:

The palms in the black & white photo are feather palm trees. They're not the same variety shown in the color photos. So the originals apparently were replaced sometime during the past 73 years.

# on Nov.21.2007 AT 06:14 PM
2
Eric Richardson writes:

Karen: You may be correct, but the article quoted does refer to them as cocos plumosas, or Queen palms. Like I said, though, I'm no palm expert.

# on Nov.21.2007 AT 09:53 PM
3
John Crandell writes:

Those toothpicks are Mexican Fan Palms (Washingtonia robusta). California Fan Palms, native to springs of the Coachella Valley have fatter trunks and do not rise near as high. The latter are known as Washingtonia filifera. It will be interesting to see how many of the large mature trees on the county mall get the axe under the revamp by the Olin Partnership. The size of these are unique in that the entire mall is on-structure. It is rare to see a roofscape atop a structure designed for deep natural soil, rather than lightweight soil mix/planting media. Personally, I'd rather see the mall plantings be retained and both the county buildings demolished to make way for four individual midrise towers. One of these would incorporate the county law library and the present library building could be replaced with a fifth midrise. Each of the five midrises should be of a unique design; do not repeat the mistake made at the New York state government mall at Albany. Podiums at the base of each tower should hug the streets and include retail spaces to keep the pedestrian activity up in the evenings and weekends. Finally, tear down the county courts so that the entire block bounded by Temple, Spring, First and Broadway can become park space. Build a new courthouse on the other side of the freeway gulch, one with a decent internal circulation.

# on Nov.22.2007 AT 12:28 AM
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Eric Richardson writes:

John: One tidbit I found while trying to piece together from evidence for this story... In 1973 a 90 year old clump of eight Phoenix Reclinata palms was moved from Good Samaritan to the north end of the LA mall. The cluster of trees weighed 17 tons, and a container was built around it using two tons of lumber. I didn't get a chance to head over to the mall and see if those trees are still around.

# on Nov.22.2007 AT 04:44 AM
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Karen writes:

There are two general descriptions for palm trees: fan and feather. The original trees were of the feather variety. The current palms, Washingtonia robusta, are of the fan variety.

# on Nov.22.2007 AT 08:31 AM
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John Crandell writes:

Eric, I once worked for one of the partners for the landscape arch. firm which designed the hardscape and planting design for the L.A. City Mall/City Hall East (they had nothing to do with the 'Triforium'). He related that the firm was told by the city that the budget was unlimited. That is why we see the custom pagoda pavilions, the dandelion fountains and the mosaic tile inlay on the sometimes working fountains. The white concrete didn't work out so well; it stains so easily. The palm cluster which you mention was boxed out with the lumber, banded with metal and moved by crane and flatbed truck. Ficus trees weren't such a fine selection for the raised brick planters along Main Street. It is rare to see tree roots outside or on top of concrete or masonry construction within which the trees were planted. Yes, specimen palms can be easily transplanted relative to dicot trees, being that they are monocots with root systems in the form of a mop at the base of the trunk. Date palms however need to be transplanted only during the spring or summer, otherwise they are more subject to disease. The L.A. City Mall was/is a classic urban design misstep, was conceived prior to any appreciable rise in urban design sensibility in southern California, that which was not to occur until the 1980s. An architectural firm with urban design proficiency should have been in charge of the entire project. The landscape oriented solution was the main mistake.

# on Nov.22.2007 AT 08:33 PM
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Joel C writes:

Better not suggest replacing them, or you'll have Santa Monica tree people chaining themselves to them.

# on Nov.26.2007 AT 08:50 AM

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