Park Fifth Responds to Curbed's Reports of Its (Funding) Demise
Yesterday Curbed that the Park Fifth project had lost its main investor and fired its sales staff and marketing director. While aspects of the post were true -- the project is restructuring some of its financing -- the fundamentals were simply incorrect. Park Fifth Project Director Rich Marr sent a reply over to Curbed rebutting their information and attempting to instill a little accuracy in what's out there. A copy of that response found its way into the blogdowntown mailbox as well.
I try not to mix work and this site, but Cartifact is providing an interactive map kiosk in the Park Fifth sales center (which I might add is really impressive). Last week I was over with VP of Marketing Erika Nelson doing some final testing. I can assure you that she's still gainfully employed and about to be moving her office into the sales center.
Bottom-line: The project's construction schedule remains unaltered and there's lots of interest in both buying and in investing.
Rich Marr's full response after the jump...
Q&A with Rich Marr Regarding Status of Park Fifth
Q: What is the status of Park Fifth?
A: Park Fifth is progressing on schedule. Over the last few months, we have seen significant progress in the development of Park Fifth. We have achieved major milestones in the areas of permitting, pre-construction planning and sales center development. Tremendous excitement and momentum have been created for Park Fifth, resulting in 348 reservations to date - even before we open our sales center.
As we enter real estate’s traditionally quiet fourth quarter, we have begun a short phase where we are restructuring internal operations in order to move forward in an effective manner and continue to progress on target. This internal restructuring will better poise us as we move forward into the construction phase. We will continue to focus on securing all necessary permits and approvals and completing the EIR process.
The design of the project, groundbreaking and completion will not be affected by the restructuring. Groundbreaking is still scheduled for the first half of 2008 and completion of the first tower is set for 2010.
Q: Is it true that Park Fifth lost its main investor?
A: No, Park Fifth’s main investors remain involved in the project and are currently focused on securing finals permits and completing the EIR process.
Q: Is Park Fifth looking for new investors?
A: Internal restructuring could include the addition of a new investor or a potential change of ownership, but this would not affect the design or timing of the project.
Q: Will the internal restructuring affect the timing of the project?
A: No, Park Fifth is progressing on schedule. Completion of the first tower is set for 2010, while the second tower will be completed in 2011. Our process of internal restructuring will not affect our progress or timing of the project.
Q: Are you still accepting new reservations?
A: Yes, Park Fifth is accepting new reservations.
Q: Will the Sales Center still open?
A: Yes, the Sales Center will be complete within the next few weeks. We are putting the final touches on what will be a truly spectacular representation of what living at Park Fifth will be like. The Sales Center will include two complete model homes, virtual tours of both towers and many interactive features to help prospective buyers visualize the home they are interested in purchasing.
Q: What is the status of Park Fifth’s sales team?
A: The Park Fifth sales and marketing team remains active and in place. The team will complete its move into the Sales Center by mid-November and will begin offering tours shortly after that. The team can be reached at or via email at .
Comments
eric,
can you ask erica where her assistant and the rest of the sales staff have gone?
# on Nov.02.2007 AT 03:09 PMcurious: As curbed in their update, the sales staff has shrunk but but certainly not all been fired. This process of getting a building built is very long, and Park Fifth is making a smart move right now to keep things on schedule.
# on Nov.03.2007 AT 09:37 AM"Going forward" equals "kiss of death." How many times was the phrase used here?
While aspects of the post were true ... the fundamentals were simply incorrect.
Let's see; vague assurances that the original investors are still "involved." Looking for new investors. "Internal" changes. Possible change of ownership is called an internal matter. Sales staff reduced. Full court PR press in a classic Chip Diller imitation.
Truth: Park Fifth has obviously run into difficulties due to radically changing market and commercial and real estate conditions. At the same time the organization needs to shift from one of planning and designing and marketing to one of construction and sales. These things happen. What cannot happen however is for Park Fifth to be caught lying about anything. Actually they cannot afford to even appear to be lying even if their statements are all legally correct. And face it, anyone with two brain cells to rub together can tell right away the exact wording of those answers were run past lawyers. Of particular interest: Park Fifth’s main investors remain involved in the project and are currently focused on securing finals permits and completing the EIR process. While that may be a complete and absolutely accurate answer if it turns out that the main investors are involved in the permits and EIR process as part of a planned exit strategy all the legal cover of the verbiage isn't going matter to the projects prospects "going forward."
All the hand waving and "all is well" happy talk has the opposite effect making people less assured. Visit the confessional, do penance and emerge pure.
# on Nov.03.2007 AT 01:08 PM^ You live in Ventura County. Why do care about what's going on in Los Angeles? I imagine most people who reside in or are closely involved with downtown Los Angeles couldn't care less about the goings-on in Ventura. And that's not because of cynicism, or tongue-clucking, towards the suburbs or exurbs, or hinterlands. It's because places like Oxnard or Camarillo aren't even on such people's radar to begin with.
# on Nov.03.2007 AT 03:36 PMI wonder if Marjorie is related to Don Koll. I admired him for a long time
# on Nov.03.2007 AT 04:02 PMIsn't that sweet. First reply and not a single response to the topicial comments. Nothing but question the person and their qualifications and motives.
I care because I sat through a sermon on Sunday with the Pastor bagging for more money to cover the deficit. A deficit cause by the Archdiocese and their DOWNTOWN cathedral. I care every time I am caught in traffic caused by poor urban planning. I care because LA and Ventura Counties are a single Caltrans District (7). I care because projects like this eventually have a direct impact on SCAG fair housing allowances in my neighborhood.
I tell you. It is amusing to hear Marjorie Koll pretend that "the hinterlands" are so very unimportant yet she feels compelled to use this discussion of a troubled downtown development to try and put them down in a pathetic defense of a downtown master plan that is clearly faltering.
# on Nov.04.2007 AT 08:26 AMYour speculation, "Rob Dawg", lacks credibility, because you wear your anti-urban agenda on your sleeve.
That doesn't mean you're wrong. It just means anybody reading this blog is going to take your analysis with a grain of salt.
# on Nov.04.2007 AT 09:10 AMYou're blaming a deficit on the Our Lady of the Angels cathedral? In light of all the news about huge payouts from the Catholic Archdiocese to victims of molestation? LOL. It's obvious you really do have a weird anti-downtown axe to grind. That's even more the case because I bet your concern about traffic in Los Angeles, around downtown in particular, is in spite of the fact you rarely, if ever, drive there from wherever you live.
But what's really telling is that you're bagging on a "faltering" plan involving a community that's more than 60 miles away from you; that you're oddly smug about the idea of a proposed pair of residential and hotel towers encountering problems.
I guess there's not enough going on in the hinterlands -- in your own backyard (probably a dull one at that) -- to occupy your time and interests.
PS, I'm not related to Don Koll, Walter, but thanks for asking.
# on Nov.04.2007 AT 09:15 AMRobDawg, you should hit up Joel Kotkin. You two would make a great pair at the altar.
# on Nov.04.2007 AT 12:53 PMRob Dawg trolls a lot of these boards with his unique form of "informed pessimism," and now I understand why. Because the city is the source of the ills of the exurbs.
That's funny to me. I always thought that the suburbs, and by extension the exurbs, are the single most pernicious influence on the city, by draining it of resources, making compact, energy efficient lifestyles close to impossible, fouling the air for hundreds of miles in every direction, and worst, creating a culture of blame directed at downtown.
It is morally indefensible to cover the entire countryside for hundreds of miles with single family houses and strip malls, and then blame downtown for the problems of the region.
# on Nov.04.2007 AT 09:14 PMSprawl has reached the farmlands and must stop there. We will all need to learn to live as a network of interdependent communities.
Defining 'pecking orders' and looking down at the neighbor are mindsets of the 20th century that have little or no place in a global society. We rise and sink together as a region.
Perhaps Rob Dawg's anger at Downtown will eventually lead to acceptance. The commute-less life Downtown has value many are only beginning to realize and are willing to trade for a lawn-less life.
# on Nov.05.2007 AT 07:11 PMI find it curious that you don't mention your company, Cartifact, being paid to do the map images and virtual tour for Park Fifth. It's a service not to disclose it to readers looking to you as a conduit of information and, in this case, PR spin.
# on Nov.14.2007 AT 04:54 PMEvan, did you miss the first sentence of the second paragraph of the post?
"I try not to mix work and this site, but Cartifact is providing an interactive map kiosk in the Park Fifth sales center..."
Is that not clear enough?
# on Nov.14.2007 AT 05:22 PMEvan: As David points out, I did mention our involvement. We did the map kiosk; the virtual building tours were done by .
# on Nov.14.2007 AT 05:27 PMHmmm, "is providing" sounds like charity to me, not a sales transaction. I guess it poses an interesting question though: Should blogs like this one be concerned with apparent or real conflicts of interest?
Bottom line: This entire post is blogdowntown acting as a marketing arm of the project to do damage control. As a longtime reader, I still think it does a disservice to not cover the issue honestly, or at least make a point of explaining your involvement: you were paid by this project. And your coverage reflects it. Or you're just such a downtown booster that you don't like publicizing an equity partner pulling out and an entires sales team losing their jobs.
# on Nov.15.2007 AT 09:30 AMif you can't understand the disclaimer in eric's original post, then you're working pretty hard to miss it. "is providing" sounds nothing like charity to me, especially when you consider the context (it's a transaction between two businesses) and the fact that he states that he doesn't like to mix WORK with the blog.
# on Nov.15.2007 AT 10:50 AMI've been watching and waiting for Park Fifth for quite a while mainly because I want to document its building progress via photograph. I work in the Pacific Mutual Building, so it's right around the corner from me and I have a good view from the roof here. Maybe one day Bert will show my stuff;)
Where the hell is their sales center?
# on Jan.07.2008 AT 04:16 PM
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I have watched that project ever since I landed on Skid Row. I wanted to make it the backdrop of a screenplay. I have been in the real estate industry for almost 30 years. From what I saw from the street and from what I saw on the website, I have no doubt the units will sell like hotcakes. I may even send Erika my resume. Good luck, Ericka. You will do fine. I am sure you already know that. That project has a very unique design to it. It has a very airy feeling. It feels inviting, even with the reflective glass. its a standout and is positioned well in many ways.
# on Nov.02.2007 AT 02:17 PM