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Lease Negotiations for Little Tokyo Recreation Center Headed to Council

By Eric Richardson
Published: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, at 11:32PM
Budokan of Los Angeles Little Tokyo Service Center

The lengthy journey to build a recreation center in Little Tokyo took a small step forward on Tuesday, as a Council committee approved the preparation of a ground lease for the site next to the Little Tokyo Branch Library.

The project, now known as , would create a 36,000 square foot multi-purpose sports complex that would host basketball, volleyball and martial arts. The land, which is owned by the city, sits on Los Angeles street, between 2nd and 3rd.

The Community Redevelopment Agency recently applied for state funds to build a green roof on the facility.

In October, the city and the Little Tokyo Service Center finalized a Memorandum of Understanding outlining how the development process would work. The next step is the development of the ground lease, which the Information Technology and Government Affairs committee asked to see back within 60 days.

'General' Jeff Page of the Skid Row 3 on 3 basketball league told the committee that his group supports the Little Tokyo effort and hopes to be able to use it once it is completed.

The project will cost approximately $15 million to complete. The full City Council must approve the committee's recommendation before it becomes official.

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Guest 1

Guest on April 22, 2010, at 08:26AM – #1

Who wants this? I prefer the huge surface parking lot. =P


Guest 2

Guest on April 22, 2010, at 09:04AM – #2

I won't be going to play there if thugs and street gangs go to play there too. I've been to the courts in Venice and others around the city, it's not friendly or comfortable. Hopefully there will be a small membership fee or some kind of membership. Doesn't skid row have enough programs for people over there, it's seems like that get most of the money anyway that comes in for DT programs, not everything downtown has always include skid row.


Guest 3

Guest on April 22, 2010, at 10:09AM – #3

unfortunately, i agree with guest #2. i live and work in the historic core and continually new projects in the area are geared towards low income & homeless programs. instead of trying to gentrify this area they are trying to move skid row closer and closer to broadway. this is only going to continue to halt the progress we are already making downtown and encourage more drug dealers and gang members onto more streets.

i have seen this happen with the rosslyn and now the new plans for the other rosslyn include only low income housing. across from the rosslyn (either one for that matter) are homeless and severly low income housing or plans for new housing (next to the now closed cafe that drug dealers sell at constantly).

it is sad that if you stand up and say you aren't happy with that, you are labeled insensitive and ignorant. i am all for people that are really trying to turn their lives around and use these programs to do that, but what i see is more people abusing these systems to sell drugs or just not care to better their lives. and just so you think i am not one of those ignorant people, i have had many conversations with homeless or challenged people in the area and there are many that do want to truly change their lives and better themselves. unfortunately they are few and far between.

it just irritates me that nike built a court for skid row, specifically to play in and they still think they can lay claim to something else. what will happen to this space if a bunch of "thugs" come, like guest #2 suggests, is that real market rate paying residents in the area will not go- which i feel defeats the purpose of having it in the first place, especially if the skid row residents already have places to play.


Guest 4

Guest on April 22, 2010, at 10:12AM – #4

It would be nice to have something like this for recreation, but I tend to agree with the last comment, the gang situation needs to be dealt with or it will be like the Venice B-ball courts etc.. no thanks.. And yes, We need better parking in downtown. As a resident I wont pay $4 to park for one hour and then go spend more money to get lunch at the new downtown restaurants! It's insulting! We need more parking like Santa Monica so people can come and park, and support our local businesses and restaurants and spend their money THERE and not on the overpriced meters and lousy, expensive lots! I tried to find street parking last week, drove around and around until finally finding a spot.. $4 an hour NO THANKS! I did not spend my money that day on the new restaurant downtown, which looked pretty empty, and I did not give $4 to the meter! BAD FOR BUSINESS VILLARAGOSA!


Eric Richardson () on April 22, 2010, at 10:40AM – #5

Perhaps those comparing this to Venice courts are missing the fact that this is an indoor, privately run gym as opposed to street courts. If you read the site, you'll see that the Little Tokyo community has big plans for hosting youth tournaments and leagues.


Guest 5

Guest on April 22, 2010, at 11:38AM – #6

The structure has an attractive design, but I wish they could add some more density to the space by increasing its height as downtown is running out of surface lots to develop. In fact, incorporating a Santa Monica-style parking structure into this development could achieve both goals of creating recreation and providing more parking. I know there are many parking haters out there, but the other walkable centers in LA have done so with an ample supply of park and walk parking garages.


Eric Richardson () on April 22, 2010, at 11:50AM – #7

Guest: The city actually has the option to build a parking structure as part of the project (the recreation center would go on top), but hasn't decided whether or not it wants to do so.


Guest 2

Guest on April 22, 2010, at 12:09PM – #8

I agree with #2 and DEFINITELY #3 and certainly #4. Indoor or not, privately run or not, I think there has to be a bigger movement when projects like this are being discussed to address the needs of the people buying lofts, and condos, and spending their money in Downtown to promote business. Skid row always has the loudest voice, but yet has largest negative affect on Downtown Los Angeles. Obviously we have gone off topic, but ironically, skid row manages to have an affect on most things discussed on this blog. I've heard it said before, times up skid row.


Guest 6

Guest on April 22, 2010, at 12:24PM – #9

for all of you wanting a parking garage here, remember that the best way to create an actual walking environment is to walk. All that putting a garage here will do is encourage people to drive a half mile to play basketball rather then spend the ten minutes walking over...as for santa monica, as a park and walk center, the actual residents of that city are on never ending complaint-fest about traffic and blocking new construction. If you want density to work you need public transit and people who are willing to walk a couple of blocks.

As for skid row taking over downtown just remember that the medallion is about to open on 4th and main and sakura crossing opened last summer at 2nd and san pedro. I agree that converting the rosslyn hotel to an official SRO on the same corner where new genesis is about to expand and where chrysalis already is, may not be the best way to create a true mixed income neighborhood, but lets not get overly dramatic about the situation...


Guest 7

Guest on April 22, 2010, at 02:54PM – #10

FYI - The Japanese-American community has a long history of youth and adult basketball leagues. Currently, the practices and games are held all over So. California typically at high schools, jr. high schools and community centers. The leagues operate nearly year round. One local league even hosts an annual tournament in Las Vegas. This project which was spearheaded by the same communuity is intended to bring many of those games and tournaments to the Little Tokyo area.


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General Jeff on April 22, 2010, at 06:32PM – #11

Let me be clear, this gymnasium does not and will not belong to Skid Row! There is no cause for alarm here. In fact, it is time to rejoice and support the Little Tokyo community as they proceed in their efforts to provide recreational space that they are willing to share with the rest of the Downtown community.

I spoke in support of this project that has taken over TWENTY years to build. The Skid Row community supports and will be involved by playing a few games involving the award-winning Skid Row 3on3 Streetball League. At this time, we have ONLY considered to play potential rain dates indoors just as we have in previous seasons at the missions that have gyms. We are proud to call Gladys Park our "home court" and will never completely leave. Just understand that our home court is outdoors, so what do we do in the wintertime when it is raining?

Being winners of the 2010 Downtowners of Distinction Award, our League is more than capable of conducting ourselves in an appropriate manner. Especially in someone else's "house".

While Skid Row is improving, we recognize that there is still a ways to go, but please understand that we are NOT trying to "take over" anything. We are simply supporting a wonderful project that is long overdue. Any claims after that is merely spreading false fears and is truly hurtful. There is no need for unnecessary maliciousness.

That said, I fully hear all of your concerns. Our community leaders will not let this important project fall into the hands of "riff-raff". In fact, the Skid Row riff-raff's don't usually drift too far away from Skid Row to do their dirt.

Maybe you guys are already making excuses because ya'll can't play no ball! ( just joking)

No need for "hate" mail. I'm just "trash-talking" to those "real" b-ball players out there.

Help us in supporting this wonderful project that is already generating excitement in Downtown. And also come out and see for yourself how enjoying the Little Tokyo community events, such as Neisei Week, bring culture, families and respect to Downtown which is open to all comers.

Congratulations to Little Tokyo!


Guest 8

Guest on April 22, 2010, at 09:56PM – #12

Looks like it's open to all residents and it looks like there will be fees associated with the use of the facility. I think this is an awesome idea.

Who will use the BoLA? ➢ Members of athletic organizations throughout the City, including basketball leagues, volleyball leagues, and martial arts dojos. These organizations include, but are not limited to, Japanese Americans. ➢ Little Tokyo and Downtown residents, including seniors, families, and professionals ➢ Local organizations and community groups.

How will the BoLA sustain ongoing operations after it is built? ➢ We have developed a business plan which projects sufficient revenues from court rental fees, memberships, and special event rentals to meet annual operational expenses. ➢ Court rental fees will be comparable and competitive to local gym rentals.


Guest 4

Guest on April 23, 2010, at 09:36AM – #13

Whether or not you WALK, BIKE or cab to any businesses downtown, PARKING is STILL a major issue for those people we want to come and spend their money in our community! Case in point: Spenders from the Westside etc. No one wants to come down here from other areas for this very reason! We could use some of THEIR money?! Here's a good example: from where I live 7th and Mateo, I can drive and to Santa Monica or the Westside faster than I can walk to downtown core... I can also find, safer, better, cheaper parking and plenty of it in Santa Monica, than I can downtown, making it a much easeier choice to to there for lunch or dinner! What is wrong with this picture... we need to keep our money downtown and offer the SAME experience for those coming from the Westside and Pasadena if we want to compete and stay in business!!!! Also, it is NOT safe to walk at night!!!! We need community parking to get people to come and spend time and money!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Guest 4

Guest on April 23, 2010, at 09:42AM – #14

"IF YOU BUILD IT THEY WILL COME!" Get Parking! Get the money! Infuse the businesses, and they will come! We need Gyms, Trader Joes, Whole Foods, more Theatre's, and playhouses... build the parking so they can come!!!!! We live in LA, people drive to go places and spend THEIR MONEY! Get their money down here!!! The rest will follow and we can have everything we want!!!!!!


Brigham Yen on April 23, 2010, at 05:12PM – #15

The reason why we NEED parking is because we don't have an effective mass transit system in place yet. That's obvious or we wouldn't be having this debate.

However, the energy from many who are frustrated with the parking situation downtown should be directed toward a more productive long-term solution. We ALL know that dense, compact urban environments can never reach its full potential with parking and cars as the main mode of transit. The last thing I want for downtown is for it to become a gigantic suburban district with tall buildings.

Driving from one building to another is counterproductive against the new urbanism movement where communities are walkable, transit oriented, and lifestyles are dramatically improved as a result.

We should be putting all our support and energy into EFFECTIVE solutions with long-term benefits (not instant gratification) such as the LA Streetcar, and the Downtown Connector.


Guest 9

Guest on April 23, 2010, at 07:56PM – #16

It would be good to stay on topic,BUDOKAN! But, for some strange reason, some comment on SKID ROW (thugs and street gangs), for your information LAPD Central Division, stated clearly, " there is no gang problem on Skid Row". If it were, than the Skidrow 3on3 Streetball League, which has an " Gang intervention component " would and should qualify for " gang intervention funding". Secondly, Skid Row RESIDENTS don't even have gy m to go to(statements about Skidrow having places to go play. Is incorrect and based upon false information"!

OG


Guest 10

Guest on April 26, 2010, at 11:31AM – #17

As a representative from the Little Tokyo community, and the agency which is overseeing the development of the Budokan of Los Angeles project, we wanted to first thank those who have come out in support of our project, and to also clarify some misconceptions.

The Little Tokyo community has been wanting to build this multi-purpose sports and activities center for over 20 years. Back in the early 90's, a series of community planning sessions were held in Little Tokyo, and as a result of those meetings, community groups came to the consensus that a gymnasium would be a crucial component to help bring young people back to the area and also help to stimulate the local economy. From that point, the Little Tokyo Service Center has taken the lead to bring this project to fruition. As what was stated in this blog, we hope to begin the final negotiation process with the City in the next couple of months and then launch our capital campaign and help to fulfill this long-awaited dream for the Little Tokyo community.

We realize, as many of you have stated that there are issues of concern-particularly with the potential users of the facility and parking. We believe the Budokan of Los Angeles is for everyone, because there is such a huge need in the Downtown area for a facility like this and it will serve a wide range of users from local Downtown residents to low income families who don't have access to nearby recreational facilities, and we hope it will also connect us closer with our local neighbors from Chinatown, Lincoln Heights, Skid Row, and other parts of the Downtown area. In addition, we hope to attract many people throughout the Southland and make this a destination driven project, which will have significant impact on many of the local businesses in the area. With that said, we also hear your concerns regarding parking. At this current time, while we cannot solve the larger issue of the lack of parking for Downtown, we are looking at the needs and impacts for our project. Currently, our project team is working with a consultant to conduct a parking study for this site and we will continue to keep the door open on a partnership with the City to address some of these parking concerns.

In the meantime, we hope you will continue to support our project as we take these final steps before launching our campaign. We also welcome any of your thoughts or ideas, because we see this project as a "true" community partnership and one that will benefit everyone.

Bill Watanabe, Executive Director, LTSC and Scott Ito, Project Director, Budokan of Los Angeles



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