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Art Walk Shuts Down?

By Eric Richardson
Published: Friday, September 24, 2010, at 11:00PM
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Looking down at Art Walk patrons from above POPLOCK gallery in May 2010.

There will be no Downtown Art Walk events for the rest of 2010, at least according to a .


Update (Sunday, 2:30pm): The board of the Downtown Art Walk non-profit just issued its first statement on Friday's events. Here it is in full.

September 25th, 2010 (Los Angeles, CA) — The Downtown Art Walk event scheduled for October 14th will proceed as planned. The announcement made to the media on Friday by Jay Lopez, the former director of the event, was made on his own initiative without authorization or support of the Board or any of the other constituents of the endeavor, including the various civic organizations responsible for managing, financing and supporting the event.

Downtown Los Angeles Art Walk greatly apologizes for confusion created by this act. The art walkʼs web site currently shows an erroneous press release that was not issued by the organization or approved by any entity responsible for the event. Mr. Lopez, the eventʼs former director, where he served at the direction of the board, apparently has seized control of the organizationʼs web site, as well as Downtown Los Angeles Art Walkʼs social media accounts. Efforts are being made to rectify this situation.

The organization's board of directors has been considering whether to make changes to the event to address issues of public safety and costs associated with a monthly event that draws 20,000+ visitors each month. The board, gallery owners, Downtown Center and Historic Core business improvement district entities, City of Los Angeles officials, local property and business owners, as well as other constituents and organizations, are currently engaged in discussion of potential changes and improvements, though no resolution has yet been made.

The downtown art walk remains a free, public community event that will take place the second Thursday in October. The Downtown Los Angeles Art Walk and the downtown community look forward the next celebration of art in downtown Los Angeles, set for the 14th of October.

Please email either of the press contacts to arrange interviews.


Note: The first version of the story was published at 2:27pm on Friday, September 24.


That statement by Downtown Art Walk Executive Director Jay Lopez says that the Art Walk will return in 2011 as a quarterly event, taking place during the daytime on the weekend. The short posting blamed the change on costs, saying that "the Downtown Art Walk has grown so large that it has become too costly to manage in its current form."

While the statement leaves little room for questions, many started to swirl after it was posted.

Property owner Tom Gilmore thinks the idea that the Art Walk could even be shut down is preposterous. "Somebody saying that they're going to stop Art Walk is like me saying that I'm going to shut down residential," he said this evening.

"I guarantee Art Walk will happen as usual every second Tuesday," he continued. "I think two weeks from now it's like, 'What? There was something wrong?'"

The board of the non-profit set up to manage the event has not made any statement, but board members have told blogdowntown that the release was not authorized by the group.

"It seems that Jay [Lopez] and Bert [Green] kind of jumped the gun," said board member Wicks Walker. "We hadn't actually resolved on a plan at our last meeting."

"We're trying to find a new plan that will keep the thing going and keep the interest alive and keep all the benefits there, but resurrect the [gallery part of the] art walk," Walker explained. "That part may take a separate form, or take place at a separate moment."

When Lopez posted the statement this afternoon, he took down the rest of the contents of the downtownartwalk.org website. The organization's Facebook and Twitter accounts were used to broadcast the shutdown message.

"That's all intellectual property of the non-profit public benefit corporation," Walker said. "Eventually all the content that was there is going to be back online."

Most hurt by today's sudden announcement are those with events planned for the October Art Walk, said Walker. He hopes people will still come out and support those events despite the confusion. "Any new plan will include a transition, not an announcement that switches things off in a nonchalant way," he said.

For now, though, the statement still being made is Lopez'.

He says that the reborn event will be a positive change.

"It's a gallery event," he told blogdowntown this afternoon. "We're coming back in January. People should be excited."

"It's going to be huge," Lopez said. He said that the upcoming weekend event will stretch over Saturday and Sunday. "We've been discussing doing something like this for six to eight months."

Due to the escalating crowds, continuing the event as-is would likely have led the Police Department requiring full street closures and the associated permit fees.

"This is a completely positive thing," Lopez says. "We're looking at this as a growth."

The event's growth has led to issues and mixed opinions in the community.

"It's become an alcohol event," said Downtown Art Walk founder Bert Green this afternoon.

The resulting trash from an event that attracted up to 15,000 people each month had become a strain on the Historic Downtown Business Improvement District, which is funded by property owners in the neighborhood.

Even with the changes, Green sees the event as a complete success.

When he moved his gallery Downtown in 2004, buyers were shocked that he expected them to go Downtown given its unsavory reputation. "Art Walk changed that perception citywide," he said. "That was fundamentally the stated goal."

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User_32

on September 24, 2010, at 02:29PM – #1

Isn't this where most of our local business pay their bills? Will they be able to survive w/o the big money-maker night?


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Youwinthisround on September 24, 2010, at 02:40PM – #2

This is really disappointing news. To what extent will the event be able to exist without formal organizing? That is, if a bunch of the businesses, bars, and restaurants continue to stay open late on the second Thursday of every month, what's to stop people from filling the streets of DTLA?


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isar () on September 24, 2010, at 02:41PM – #3

So the people in charge are going to kill the current format even when it comes back. Would be nice if this monthly event could continue to exist as an unofficial event or another group can do something similar.


Guest 1

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 02:45PM – #4

This is as is should be. Hopefully a quarterly weekend event will again allow art walk to focus on the art and galleries not on food trucks and booze. Lately no one that is here on Thursday after 8 or 9 p.m. cares about the art anyway.

Let the people keep coming downtown on Thursday nights, the bars and restaurants will still be here. Downtown will continue to grow and prosper. Don't limit your trips to the 2nd Thursday. There's lots to do every week.


Guest 2

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 02:45PM – #5

The wrong press release was sent. Correction to Art Walk news will be forthcoming.


Joseph Mailander on September 24, 2010, at 02:51PM – #6

Truly bizarre news. "We can't handle our success, so we've got to change it all around."

Summer Nights at MoCA was a similar success that was costly in a minor way, so decided to cancel rather than continue. Three years later the Museum was completely broke and soliciting major funds just to stay open.

It is always better to solicit make-up funds now, when it merely feels uncomfortable, than later when soliciting becomes essential to your existence.


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Ken Hall on September 24, 2010, at 03:04PM – #7

So, they're killing something that has been wildly successful for the whole downtown community???...I really, really don't understand this.

Say good bye to the crowds and business on the second Thursday of each month.

No offense to the artist and galleries, but lots of people are not going come to downtown during the day, once a quarter just for art.

This sucks SO much.


Adam Steinbaugh () on September 24, 2010, at 03:08PM – #8

Art Walk has become a culture unto itself. Sure, many may disapprove of the alcohol use, but why risk destroying a culture in order to focus on art? The "wait, what about the ART?" attitude reminds me of .

Art Walk allowed people to rediscover DTLA as a changing community, bringing in new customers (who would return again later outside of Art Walk), allowing local businesses to develop and thrive. If those businesses disappear, so too will the folks who are comfortable coming downtown to see an art gallery.

Was there any attempt to reach out to local businesses to come up with funding? Were other community organizations asked to pitch in? Or is this just a convenient way to stop people who come to Art Walk for something other than art?


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Ken Hall on September 24, 2010, at 03:19PM – #9

"What remains to be seen is whether the shutdown will actually lead to empty streets on October 14, the date of the next planned Art Walk. The event was always an organically organized one, so there is not much to stop attendees from simply showing up on schedule in two weeks."

...I certainly hope for all of the hard work that has been put into developing our downtown culture and for all of the downtown businesses sake that people DO keep coming downtown in spite of this totally asinine decision.


Buzz Chatman on September 24, 2010, at 03:38PM – #10

it seems like the only commenter here in favor of this idea is the one who sent out the wrong press release.

to turn one's nose up at the "food trucks and alcohol" completely misses the point - those things were an outgrowth of a successful event and only made it more appealing to more people.

to claim to want to bring the focus back to the art is bullshit. how much art was purchased every month at art walk? how many artists got exposure they would have never had otherwise? i guarantee that the artists don't appreciate your attempt to save them.

i do empathize with residents, but most of the people i know in the Core can deal with one night a month of madness for the energy and life this event brought.

BAD. IDEA.


Guest 3

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 03:39PM – #11

The announcement by the Artwalk board was a premature one. Meetings with stakeholders to discuss Artwalk, its funding and its(sustainable)future are scheduled for next week. Stay tuned. Thanks, Tom Gilmore


Guest 4

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 03:48PM – #12

As usual, the same people w/o any business sense and w/o a real blueprint. Screw the business sector full steam ahead! A very, very sad development. RIP Art Walk.


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Megan Blaine () on September 24, 2010, at 03:48PM – #13

Can we make the second Thursdays food truck walk? Art walk has become it's own little monster without the focus on art, but I know the local shop owners and restaurants would appreciate keeping that monthly crowd around.


Guest 5

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 03:51PM – #14

Read between the lines. It's too popular; there are too many people; it's out of control.

The problem isn't Art Walk. The problem is that there's a responsible entity that doesn't have the resources to properly host and regulate the event. It's voluntary, right? It can't directly tax the bars and restaurants that really benefit from the night.

The solution? The entity votes itself out of existence. It's not as if people will stop coming. Without a responsible entity, the event becomes a large, predictable monthly gathering of citizens. Predictable, but unofficial, and with no requirement of paid fees or formal police cooperation.

The "quarterly" "weekend" event is propaganda. Pure disassociation from something that now needs no formal planning or endorsement. Clever, but transparent.

The onus is now put on the police and the individual local business owners to try and keep things under control. It's an extra burden on an already underresourced policeforce, and local businesses have no say beyond their own right-of-ways.

Which means that Thursday, October 14, will be a test run in a new era. Will the police show up in numbers without formal coordination? Without paid fees, do the police treat the events (and the noise, and the crowds) as potentially dangerous, instead of playing a facilitating look-the-other-way role, as they've done?

What will happen on 10/14? It'll be interesting.

If it's a disaster, it's back to the drawing board. Another effort will have to be made to match the event with a regulating entity that can deal with it. Art Walk won't just fade away, likely, even if the police crack down.

If it's a success, we've got the police and responsible individual businessowners to thank. No entity will be necessary, but the Art Walk becomes even more anarchic and unpredictable, and there'll be further strains on the police and locals.


Guest 6

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 03:52PM – #15

keep it true- second thursday night of every month everyone show up downtown!!!!!!


Guest 7

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 04:01PM – #16

This is terrific news. I've had it with the out-of-key yodelers and the dude yelling "Arrr!" late into the night.


Guest 4

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 04:01PM – #17

If I am not mistaken did the gallery at 5th and main shut a long time ago for art walk? One votes with one's feet.


Guest 8

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 04:08PM – #18

this is really unfortunate. i have spoken with people at length about this, but i doubt the general public was aware that this could be one of the solutions. as a business owner in the middle of it all, i am saddened that this might happen.

a better plan would have been to involve the community like they do for every park name, or city ordinance- however this wasn't done. all artwalk talk is done by a small group and a lot of the public isn't properly invited to have their say.

i'd like to know who would come during the day on a Thursday? most people i know have to work. so are we saying artwalk is only for the overpriveledged and obscenely wealthy who can actually skip about downtown durning the day. let me tell you, they will not be coming downtown during the day- the scene outside my window that happens EVERY day will keep them from coming.

i sincerely hope this is not the last word on all of this. artwalk is a community event and it should have community involvement, not 5-7 people in a room deciding it's fate because they have no other ideas. the current status of artwalk is amazing and tho it has it's capacity problems, they can be dealt with without killing the event entirely. i have said, get the city involved, get the state involved. there has to be money that can be gotten from somewhere. get sponsors- anything. but this cannot change- it is such a vital part of the change downtown, to kill artwalk would be to stop the progress we have come to appreciate.


Guest 9

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 04:10PM – #19

@#4 "This is as is should be. Hopefully a quarterly weekend event will again allow art walk to focus on the art and galleries not on food trucks and booze. Lately no one that is here on Thursday after 8 or 9 p.m. cares about the art anyway."

The fundamental problem with this statement is that it tries to define what is art. If Art Walk as it stands no longer serves to boost the sales at certain galleries, start up a new campaign as you plan, but let someone else take over the arguably best catalyst for introducing a new downtown to a huge number of Angelenos.

Who, after all, owns Art Walk. I think it is time that other of us take up the mantle and we continue our OBD Thursday Hang-town. If large numbers of people want to come downtown on Thursday nights to eat artfully prepared tacos, hear a cool new band on the sidewalk or grab an amazing cocktail, who's to say that's not art???


() on September 24, 2010, at 04:15PM – #20

The gallery owners recently met and agreed to two positions. Keep Art Walk on the second Thursday of the month and to also have another event - not named Art Walk - on Sunday afternoons once every quarter that would be strictly oriented towards the art galleries. And, with one exception, they voted against closing down Art Walk. In addition, the Art Walk Board has never voted to shut down the Art Walk and is instead looking for new ways to finance it.


Guest 8

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 04:17PM – #21

guest #14- what is going to stop anarchy from reigning on the 14th? this is a dangerous game you are playing just to prove a point. you are putting many people in danger and you are putting businesses in harms way as well.

artwalk has gone exceedingly well, the only throwback is the money situation- ie. paying for security and trash. there had to be a better way then to just spring it on people less than a month away from that actual date. i think that is irresponsible and, quite frankly, the least civic minded thing i can think of. there is money to be gotten and there are people that could have been talked to... including the downtown community and artwalk community at large- which was never really included beyond the chosen few.

all just to prove a point, or worse, to placate the old gaurd who "hate" what artwalk has turned into by making it a daytime event??? shame.


Guest 10

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 04:19PM – #22

Jay Lopez, Bert Green and friends took their time to kick out all of the galleries from contributing to this decision. Bert eliminated the only way the group could talk to each other on Yahoo Groups. Then proceeded to do exactly what he wanted- stop artwalk. Even though we all agreed in the last group gallerists meeting that we wanted the artwalk to continue. I guess that is why he had to kick us all out.

Why is it that New York can deal with crowds but L.A. cannot? It is not about crowds, it is about Bert Greens vision of what the artwalk should be. But if he had encouraged the galleries participation there would have been a million ideas coming forth to help the artwalk keep its artistic creative integrity. Well Jay good job in implementing Berts vision. It has nothing to do with the gallery owners ideas. Well maybe Edgar Varela since he is partnered with Bert now.

Whoa are all of us here in the Historic Core. Back to square one to try and get people down to the area. I guess the daytime visits are more better to sell condos since Jay and Edgar are both Real Estate people. Hey good master plan. Too bad the artists and all of the burgeoning retail will suffer in the meantime. Well at least the Real Estate Agents are happy, right Edgar and Jay and Bert or Bert you arent a Real Estate agent you are a talking doll?


Jenni Simcoe on September 24, 2010, at 04:23PM – #23

Allison, You have a great point. I know many of the restaurant owners who make their entire rent just on art walk night. It will be interesting to hear their point of view.


Guest 11

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 04:25PM – #24

Hopefully the right decision-makers will be able to determine a way to manage the event. Art Walk promotes culture, helps boost the DTLA economy, and is truly more than frat-house night. I like the purpose of the event (a venue for art and artists) and I appreciate the pop-outgrowth of business. Don't let "anarchy" (as mentioned above) be a deterrant. I really do hope there is a win/win for the artists and all involved in keeping all value secure.


Guest 10

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 04:32PM – #25

Brady there is no formal conduit for the gallerists to speak to the board. So the gallerists can have meetings all day long and it wont mean much. Correct me if I am wrong here. The board for the artwalk will decide everything anyway. Bert and Jay implemented this structure. So now the board is saying it needs sponsors. OK I bet the next scene is that General Motors or Coca Cola comes on board to help structure the event better. A large donation ensues the board somehow is happy, etc. When all along the gallerists were never really given the opportunity to run the artwalk. There was cryptic communication from Bert because he was wringing his hand waiting for this day to come. Corporate sponsors for the board he basically controls. OK people gallery owners its time to take it back, yes control of artwalk. But you know I just dont see people waking up. Its just not gonna happen. Bert you are going to win. I really see that happening.


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Amanda Manklang () on September 24, 2010, at 04:41PM – #26

This is really sad. I got to experience the art walk in 2008 (really small) and again in 2010 and was surprised by how successful the event had become with all the new businesses, food trucks, and of course the amount of people. I recently moved back and experienced my first art walk of 2010 and really wanted to call it the Downtown Drunk Walk. I would say maybe 70% of the people that attended just came over-dressed and drunk just to walk around. I'm really disappointed that the event is no longer once a month, but hopefully the date change will get rid of these hollywood-type drunkards that would come downtown once a month and completely trash the streets. Everyone that lives downtown is very passionate about our little community and its growth and development and I'm very sure that this change in the art walk will be positive and lead to even better events in between the months of the new quarterly art walks.


Guest 12

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 04:41PM – #27

Who cares?


Guest 13

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 04:43PM – #28

As far as some Thursday night event, simple! Let's all just communicate that the party goes on. Maybe we make a new unofficial ArtWalk Facebook page to keep promoting it as a grass roots thing. As its been said, a lot of the people are coming for the party anyway, so whats to stop them. People are like ants, they are drawn to be in places where there are massive gatherings of there own kind. On another note, it seems obvious that we've placed most of our eggs in one basket here. Its time for food, drinks, music and culture to come into there own.


Guest 10

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 04:44PM – #29

The gallery owners do not want drunks in their midst. They want the artwalk to be art centric. It was Bert that dismantled the gallery owners input about a year ago. Since that time the Real Estate barons and non stake holders have been running the show. This is horrible! The gallery owners can do things to bring the art back into artwalk. But the leaders will not let us in. Jay-Bert have kicked us all out of the decision making process. This why the artwalk has so many drunks. If art was inserted more into the event it would be waaaaay cooler.


Guest 1

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 04:46PM – #30

Guest #28

"Its time for food, drinks, music and culture to come into there own."

Absolutely, and not just once a month. Downtown is here for all to enjoy every day of every month. Spread the fun and money around every day.


Guest 8

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 04:48PM – #31

i don't think that a bunch alchohalics are descending on artwalk night.... people get drunk because they are having fun. it's okay, and it still promotes downtown.... get over the drunk "frat party" stuff- it's a non-issue.


Guest 2

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 04:49PM – #32

Today's release was not approved or sent out by the art walk board. There is a new event plan in discussion, which will incorporate the interests of all involved, though the exact plan has not yet been finalized.

Corrected information will be released as soon as practically possible.

The art walk web site and social pages, etc., will be corrected as soon as control of them is restored to the art walk organization.

Wicks Walker, art walk board member


Guest 8

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 04:52PM – #33

Wicks,

What do you mean "as soon as control of them is restored to the art walk organization"? Is something going on here? It certainly seems like someone was premature or speaking out of turn here.

It is already a story here and in downtown news. If this information is, indeed, incorrect, then someone needs to pull both stories from these publications.


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Youwinthisround on September 24, 2010, at 05:07PM – #34

This is beginning to stink of the same management infighting that has plagued Art Walk since its inception. I have a strong suspicion there's a lot more to this story and that Art Walk may not, in fact, be canceled for the remainder of the year.


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Downtowncommuter on September 24, 2010, at 05:10PM – #35

Looks like a little infighting is being played out in public by the gallerists. Here's my suggestion--let's take the event away from the bickering back-stabbers. Just add a D -- and welcome everyone every second Thursday downtown for the Dart Walk!

(Hell, with that name it can even be sponsored by the 7th and Fig Target!)


Guest 5

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 05:30PM – #36

Honestly, downtown is so full of stupid power-mad fuckers.

I can't believe this is happening again.


Guest 5

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 05:34PM – #37

If this is all internal bullshit, this is some pretty shitty reporting from blogdowntown.

What the fuck is going on?


Guest 14

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 05:37PM – #38

The only good thing to come from the cancellation of Art Walk will be the Stray Cat Cafe losing its only night of business!


Guest 15

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 05:44PM – #39

This is a long time coming.

Art Walk went from being the best night to live in the Historic Core to the worst. It's completely inhospitable and unsustainable in its present form.

Drunk teens tripping down the street and barfing food from a truck does not constitute a cultural event.


Guest 16

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 05:45PM – #40

I fail to see a difference between an "alcohol event" and an art event. If the basis for changing art walk is to make it more about art and less about alcohol, I would find that the change is groundless.

Instead, this change is more likely the result of demands by city officials concerning safety requirements and artists not being able to pay for adequate remedies.

Admitting that art walk is also about alcohol, I think it would be appropriate to disburse the cost of safety procedures among both the galleries and the bars. On balance, local bars will probably still profit despite their contributions to either street closure permits or added security personnel due to the significant rise in business on art walk nights.


User_32

() on September 24, 2010, at 05:54PM – #41

Boooo. Epic sad.

I went to one. I didn't drink, and I didn't buy any art. But I did go to all the little indie merchant booths for fashion and vintage finds, I went to the bookstores who stayed open late, and I had a good meal on Main.

I loved the crowd. There were a lot of people, but it wasn't unruly. And if people were drinking (which I'm sure they were) they were behaving, and this was like midnight.

This is a bullshit excuse and I second everyone who said its not only stupid for the entity as a business decision but that the 'art' thing is an excuse as well. I also agree its likely because they didn't want to pursue it into a real event where money and stuff had to be paid...which is stupid. Why not band together with all the brick and mortar businesses and little booths, agree to take a small fee for officially promoting them, there you're covered! Now close the streets!

I think its a shame. A crying shame. When I seen art walk I intended to go to all future ones. I told everyone I knew that was the night to see Downtown as it should be. And the people who followed my advice and went loved it.

I must reiterate: boo. Why can we close down the streets for that stupid commercial product thing aimed at the Latino population (stupid not because its latino, but because according to those who know it its turned into a sample handing out event that has no purpose other than to hock a product like Tide to a certain market)? They have sponsors and such like MTV and big companies. I don't necessarily want MTV but why couldn't art walk dig up some companies? This is just..ugh. Stupid.


Guest 17

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 05:59PM – #42

art walk lives on!!!!!! no one can stop us !!!!!! we will continue to come every second thursday of the month!!!!!!! lets do this!!!!!!!


User_32

() on September 24, 2010, at 06:05PM – #43

I wanna add this too: reading some more comments it sounds like as one person pointed out the artists putting this in the day when only rich little kids could come out. Events during the day are dull. And usually aimed at the old old set. That's probably not what these artists want.

I think this is the ultimate example of that 'indie vs commercial' thing everyone has been bitching about when it comes to retail. The crowds to me seemed overly...individualistic...not Hollywood douche types. But even IF they had been...you're turning up your nose at their money and eyeballs on your merchandise because you want it to be about 'art and stuff' again? Stupid. I'd take any customer any day, and if you want to turn someone away, let alone kill a whole event, because you think the crowd isn't f-ing hippy organic enough well...that's just the worst of any hipster stereotype ever.

People have given me hell for advocating cleaning up downtown, so I can hear some people go 'HA see what happens when they turn it on your crowd!' No, I advocate bringing people who are clean, civil, have a little money, and want to behave. There might be a few unruly people, but overall the crowds I seen met that standard. Its stupid to say they didn't reach some hipster high bar of art critic, so let's kill the whole thing. Those galleries can have their flimsy ghost of an art walk on Thursday, or move it on Sunday, but they'll see the amount of eyeballs, attention, and give a damn (as well as purchases) drop. I have nothing against art but if I'm gonna buy it I imagine I'm gonna buy it. These art walk events which are not exclusive to LA wouldn't jostle me into it. More to me it sounds like paid in full hipster artists whining because they're paying a bunch of rent and charging a bunch of money and nobody is buying, and worst of all paying attention, so pull the plug!

I think its a huge shame for the local non art focused businesses, and for the little indie booths which seemed to have a lot of handmade jewelry and such...an art of its own kind. I'm rarely impressed with craft show set ups but the people I seen were talented and had reasonably priced merchandise...now where will they get a crowd like that to cater to? Etsy? Seriously?

I think this is just shooting the community in the foot by a bunch of whiny rich folk who felt they weren't getting enough attention and didn't want to pay to turn the event into something really special, or even figure out a way to pay for it.


Frank Zgonc () on September 24, 2010, at 06:12PM – #44

This makes me really sad. A lot of work went into making the Art Walk a community event and the powers that be shut it down when it got really going. It was a nice sign of life in down town LA that didn't exist a few years ago and is much needed.

From blogging LA this final sentence sums it all up. "Now that the crowds have arrived, you want them to go home?"


Guest 18

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 06:18PM – #45

I'm ready for the follow-up article, Eric.


User_32

on September 24, 2010, at 06:20PM – #46

You may have cancelled Art Walk, but now you have a large group of people showing up at a designated time each month (i.e. you know when to expect them) who are willing to spend money locally. Take advantage.


Guest 8

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 06:22PM – #47

@guest 14

"The solution? The entity votes itself out of existence. It's not as if people will stop coming."

what's to stop them from coming? how about all these news articles and the artwalk website telling them it isn't happening?? when you tell people and event has been canceled a lot of people just don't show up.


Guest 19

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 06:22PM – #48

New York City's Times Square is sort of like a version of "artwalk" on most days of the year. Or a place that attracts large throngs of people on a regular basis---and way more than just once a month. For that matter, cities like New York and Tokyo in general have several streets (and corresponding sidewalks) that are daily versions of Art Walk.

Is Los Angeles so unsophisticated and even rather primitive that a bit of real street life can't be sustained and supported?

Sadly, the areas of Downtown LA that have shown a bit of life over the past few years on a monthly basis otherwise were, or are, about as sleepy (or dead) as Grover's Corner, but with the added bonus of wandering homeless people and a sense of criminal activity lurking up ahead.

Canceling Art Walk seems to be a step backward in the evolution of the community.


Guest 8

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 06:31PM – #49

la times just published the press release on their website. it says that artwalk is suspended! guest #14, now do you think everyone is still just going to "show up". this was deliberate, calculated and dirty. 5-7 people do not have the right to take an event out, nor do they have the right to speak for the community.

as far as i'm concerned the artwalk board has done nothing except interact with police and trash pick-up.... how does that give them the sole right to end this and send a mass press release? so irresponsible. you have officially ruined an amazing thing just to prove a point. good luck getting it back and good luck luring more business downtown.


Kim Cooper on September 24, 2010, at 06:31PM – #50

Founding Director Richard Schave Comments on Downtown Art Walk's Cancellation

LOS ANGELES- Today's bizarre press release announcing cancellation of the Downtown Los Angeles Art Walk, a hugely popular community event, is deeply troubling. Art Walk was placed in a non-profit in mid-2009 precisely to avoid such capricious decisions, which fail to take into consideration the value and significance of this event for the greater community. Promoting positive public space, as Art Walk does, benefits local businesses, fosters community, and deters crime. This shocking announcement comes after nearly two years of wrangling for control of the Art Walk by a disparate group of business leaders, gallery owners and community activists. The community is the poorer for the Art Walk board's failure to remain focused on its mission statement, and the fundamental goals of a non-profit.

The Art Walk non-profit's founding Director Richard Schave says, "All this in-fighting and dissent just boils down to one question: what is this non-profit supposed to do? I think it is to effect positive social change and make the Historic Core a better neighborhood, and that's why I volunteered, full-time for nearly a year, to form and run the Art Walk non-profit. I outlined this mission in all the documents which the board voted on and approved: our mission was to allow highly distinct groups in a small area to collaborate, share their knowledge and resources, and make the neighborhood a better place. Since my forced resignation, the board has failed to foster these communities, to harness resources to protect them, and to make the Art Walk work. Every person on this board is capable of doing what needs to be done--I know, because I picked most of them."

Some background: In fall 2008, gallery owner and Art Walk founder Bert Green began quietly informing select individuals of his intention of shutting down the popular Downtown Art Walk, or moving it to a weekend, daytime time slot. Subsequently, a series of meetings were held to give gallery owners and community stakeholders an opportunity to discuss Green's plans and the future of the event. Attending these meetings were many Downtown gallery owners, artists, business owners, and Russell Brown, representing both DLANC (Downtown LA Neighborhood Council) and his employers at the HDBID (Historic Downtown Business Improvement District). Although most stated that they did not want Art Walk to end, nobody stepped up to take on the enormous challenge of running the event.

When Richard Schave, host of the free Hippodrome Art Walk Shuttle, was asked by Bert Green in early January 2009 to take over the reins of the Art Walk, the only viable path Schave saw was that of a non-profit (a California Public Benefit Corporation), an entity which would hold this important cultural event in trust for the benefit of the whole community. Schave put together a board, prepared all appropriate documentation for the creation of the non-profit (business plan, three-year budget, case statement) and with his wife Kim Cooper created a curatorial program which tackled the major challenge of the event: decentralization from the bottleneck at 4th & Main. This decentralization was at the direct request of LAPD Senior Lead Officer Deon Joseph, who stated he was very pleased with the result of moving Art Walk's official rendezvous point and tour departure spot to Clifton's Cafeteria.

In taking on management of the then-four-year-old Downtown Art Walk, through a 6-month transition period and then management of the event from the June through October 2009 Art Walks, Schave discovered that he was starting from scratch. No plans were in place for crowd control, major sponsorship or brand identity. Despite a history of revenue having been collected from all participating galleries and a smattering of downtown businesses, the new non-profit began with no operating funds. $6500 was raised by volunteer staff during the first months.

Within weeks, Bert Green deleted the longstanding community Yahoo group that gallery owners had used to communicate among themselves and with Bert Green as the manager of the Art Walk, and later with the non-profit's board. This deletion occurred with no notice to the new non-profit which had been given administrative privileges of the list and led to believe the list was in Art Walk's official control. Once the Yahoo group was gone, all evidence of the new management's many instances of community outreach to the gallery owners was destroyed, and a campaign launched wherein Bert Green and Russell Brown personally informed gallery owners that they should not cooperate with the new Art Walk management.

In mid-October, Bert Green sent an email to Richard Schave which inadvertently included a chain of prior conversations revealing ongoing negotiations between Russell Brown, Bert Green and representatives of General Motors/Cadillac to bring corporate sponsorship to the Historic Core during Art Walk, but without the knowledge of the non-profit which ran the event, and presumably with the intent of directing this sponsorship income to some other entity. When Schave brought this matter to the attention of the Art Walk board, he was told he was inhibiting the work of a public official and asked to back off. Cadillac did take over a parking lot on Main Street during the November 2009 Art Walk (see link below), by which point, Richard Schave was no longer director of the event.

By early November 2009, the lies and attacks from Green and Brown on the volunteer managers of the Art Walk reached a fever pitch, and on November 9, Richard Schave was asked to step down as Director due to these ongoing, demonstrably false accusations of incompetence. Despite their supposed incompetence, he and wife Kim Cooper were asked to stay on as full-time volunteers to continue managing the event. They declined, and resigned in light of this obfuscation, ill-will and the overall negative impact these rifts had on the community. They stated at the time that they felt they could do more good off the Art Walk board than on it. Subsequently, Kim Cooper filed grievances against Russell Brown for his unethical behavior as President of DLANC, which resulted in a front page headline in the Garment & Citizen newspaper stating "DONE Boss Says System ‘Very Weak’ as Grievance Reveals DLANC Ethics Gap." Russell Brown did not run for re-election.

Richard Schave says "The downtown community deserves better than this. Art Walk belongs to everyone who participates and cares about the life of the city. They are the constituents of the non-profit, and it is inappropriate that their event be suddenly shuttered without community participation or any open discussion of positive ideas to effect the ongoing social change that Art Walk represents, and that our city so desperately needs."

LINKS TO SUPPORTING MATERIALS

Mission Statement voted in by Art Walk board in October 2009, removed from their website after Richard Schave's forced resignation November 2009: http://artwalkcasestatement.notlong.com

Documentation on Russell Brown's attacks on Art Walk volunteers and DLANC grievance hearing: http://stepdownrussbrown.wordpress.com/

Video of Russell Brown's DLANC grievance hearing, including footage of Cadillac SUVs on exhibit during the November 2009 Art Walk (Cadillac footage starts at 7:34): http://vimeo.com/


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 06:34PM – #51

Uhhh... Yeah.... Lets bring it back to 1986 with the baseheads wandering 5th and Los Angeles like zombies. Kinda miss the old days.... Bring the cardboard boxes back en masse as well.... Los Angeles City's good weather shouldn't go for naught.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 06:34PM – #52

what a shite 'city'.... "Due to the escalating crowds, continuing the event as-is would likely have led the Police Department requiring full street closures and the associated permit fees"

The LAPD could do with some exercise. Have you seen the size of their bellies? Make them work for their Big Macs. Streets in HongKong, Singapore, Shanghai etc are like this daily, a stream of humanity running thru the city's veins.

Los Angeles is such a non return on any energy invested into it. Zzzzzzzzz.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 07:09PM – #53

People, thousands of people converge on downtown on Artwalk night every month. Who do you think organizes and coordinated all of it so that it goes well? Who gets the parking lots figured out for the food trucks and vending? Who pay to insure that? Who pays to clean up the huge mounds of trash that are left behind every month by people enjoying the "free" event?

The city does not do trash pickup in this area, it is shouldered by the business improvement district which is paid for by property owners. I'm sure it was a completely draining expense that was in no way figured into the budget of the BID and that not one "businesses making its rent on Art Walk night" contributed to.

People were loading the sidewalks and taking over the streets, and LAPD was starting to insist on street closures so they could manage the crowd. Who was going to pay for that so everyone could come and enjoy the "free" vent every month?

There's no such thing as "free" and a lot of people worked hard to keep it going and make it work for as long as possible, but you can't expect a tiny non-profit to shoulder all the responsibility, cost and burden for every hipster twenty-something who wants to be "downtown cool" once a month. Get real.

It's awesome people were coming to Downtown - for art, for food, for booze - whatever, but something had to give. You cannot get blood (money, organization, coordination, cleanup and public safety) from a turnip.

If all the businesses banded together and RAISED MONEY to pay for what it costs to put this on every month, then I'm sure it could have stuck around, but instead everyone's going to sit around and complain that the free for all has come to an end.

Such whiney babies. If you want Art Walk back, go raise some money to pay for it. Oh, never mind, there actually were corporate sponsors proposed once upon a time, but then the same whiney babies complained it was being "corporatized" Well at least it would have been paid for.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 07:15PM – #54

Nothing worse than success according to BG and friends.. The Children of the Doom seem to have taken revenge against the people and businesses of DTLA. Just like a sandbox takeover.


James Hightower on September 24, 2010, at 07:17PM – #55

See? This is why we can't have nice things.

Um, I dunno 'bout you guys, but I'm inviting all my friends for a downtown pub crawl 10/14. We'll look at some art, too. If the galleries aren't open, we'll look through the windows.

Art Walk no longer belongs to whomever has upload access to downtownartwalk.org. It now belongs to the barkeeps and restaurateurs and even the occasional gallery or artist who felt they made money, either directly or indirectly, from the masses that descended on 5th n' Main. It belongs to us, too, the people who just enjoyed it. It's ours now. We own it.

Afraid people will stay away because of the press release? Time to promote. Businesses through their usual channels, and everyone else with the Twitters and the Facebook and email and the telephone. What shape will it take? I don't know, in the broader sense. In the more narrow scope of "ME", it will be me, and some friends, drinking and looking at art. You guys can come along too (you certainly don't need to wait for an invite from me!)


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 07:33PM – #56

What are you talking about whiney? The artwalk is a culmination of decades of art openings that traditionally were held on Thursday nights throughout the LA area. Bert really did not invent it. But ask him he will tell you it was all him. Galleries and artists are fiercely independent entrepreneurs but were tricked by Bert Green and so today is the reckoning day. Although I am happy to see that Tom Gilmore is saying that there is some regrouping going on. Perhaps it will be saved. Well yeah the only people that can save it are good people that have shown their good intentions like Kim and Richard. Jay Lopez as the leader should not have decided this for the business community or the art community at large. It is incredible to me that they could make such arbitrary decisions that affect so many people without even one meeting with the people who have a real stake in this matter. What arrogance. But Bert, Jay and Edgar are getting away with their smug behavior because most people have believed their bull. Well maybe we cant pay for this maybe a better infrastructure needs to be installed. OK then lets do it. Let us be involved in the decision making. Let the gallery and business owners in on how we should move forward. But dont make a decision to cancel it so easily. Well I guess you can Jay since you have no stake in this area at all. So you too Bert as I heard you are leaving for New York soon. Also, you to Edgar as I know you are more interested in music and real estate not fine art.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 07:39PM – #57

Rumor hazzit that Stray Cat Cafe will be open on 10/14 until 2 am. It will feature an exciting gallery show. This will be a great time to check out this new hot spot!


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 07:45PM – #58

With the Kim Cooper and Stray Cat Cafe plugs, this string has taken a predictable turn into exactly why the community needs a break from the Art Walk.

Remember visitors, people actually live here and call it home.


Guest 24

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 07:47PM – #59

The city does not do trash pickup in this area, it is shouldered by the business improvement district which is paid for by property owners

I can see your point, but will this also end up being a case of penny wise, pound foolish?

If signs of urban vibrancy come at too high a price, then I guess the areas around Spring and Main were an accountant's golden dream (if not wet dream) when they were mostly vacant and quiet. If so, I guess the city can never move to a higher level because it will be too expensive a proposition.

Is Los Angeles that pathetic and poor?


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Youwinthisround on September 24, 2010, at 07:50PM – #60

A perfunctory and ultimately retracted press release? A bunch of anonymous guest posts rehashing old battles? A hijacking of the Art Walk website?

Let's just say I'm not gonna go canceling my Art Walk plans just yet.

Stay tuned.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 07:59PM – #61

What is the Stray Cat?


Guest 23

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 08:01PM – #62

The Stray Cat is a hot new cafe at the corner of 5th and Spring. It has an exciting new chef and always top drawer art.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 08:02PM – #63

Cool Thanks I will check it out, I hope I can do that on the artwalk. I hope I hope I hope.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 08:06PM – #64

One of the most undemocratic moves yet. A sad commentary on who thinks they control the will of the people and the business community. Business as usual.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 08:13PM – #65

Speaking of Stray Cat... This is the most controversial thing to happen downtown since The Must/Julie Rico situation.


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Tony Hoover on September 24, 2010, at 08:16PM – #66

I have lots to say about this subject…

My background is in the art world. I have nearly 20 years experience in it, although I have not been actively involved in the art scene in LA for several years. Despite a lack of recent experience I know (to some degree or another) how the art world works.

I’m very saddened to hear this news about Artwalk. I understand and empathize with the problems associated with the crowds, noise etc. for those who live in Downtown LA. But Downtown is an urban setting and Artwalk is the kind of activity perfectly suited for this kind of setting. It’s the kind of event that makes living in an urban environment exciting. New Yorkers and Chicagoans have a love – hate relationship with their cities because of this kind of thing. They will bitch and moan about the problems parades and other spectacles cause them. However, at the same time this is also what they are most proud of in regards to their city. Love and hate – it’s just part of city life (in any city) and most urbanites wouldn’t have it any other way. If they hated it so much Chicagoans would move to Indiana and Manhattanites would move to Long Island – and that (for the most part) ain’t happening.

Persons who move to Downtown LA have got to know that this is the kind of thing that they are in for. Downtown LA is not Tuluca Lake, or even Culver City. It’s highly urban and with that comes all the things that make urban places work – energy and all the byproducts of that energy.

With that said, DTLA ArtWalk has achieved something in Los Angeles that no other city in the nation has been able to achieve – it has re-introduced the CULTURE of art to an absolutely HUGE and diverse public audience. Most of this audience knows little or nothing about art, or the art world. ArtWalk has also made this very large audience notice that we have an art culture in LA and, even more importantly, one that they can participate in.

Even with all the food trucks and drinking, I have to say I have been very impressed with the number of people still cramming themselves into the galleries. Although they are eating, drinking and celebrating they absolutely DO want to see the art. I’m impressed. That in ANY city is exciting – and enviable.

Most art events in Los Angeles center on exclusivity. LACMA and MOCA, and the “collector’s galleries” do have events open to the public, but the big celebrations are geared to membership, people with money or celebrity. Art is not just about culture, it’s also big business.

The new Resnik Pavilion at LACMA, for example, will open mainly to a very affluent audience. Like the glamour of Hollywood, the energy of the art world in Los Angeles is, for the most part, INACCESSIBLE to most Angelenos. But this is true for most cities in the world. ArtWalk did a lot to change that dynamic. ArtWalk made excitement of art very accessible to EVERYONE.

Burt Green is correct, DTLA ArtWalk doesn’t engage most serious art collectors (maybe some, but certainly not most). But is that such a bad thing? Does ArtWalk perhaps achieve something much more important for Downtown (overall) than its original mission of attracting serious art buyers? I can understand why Burt Green pulled his gallery out of ArtWalk. He’s a businessman and from a businessman’s standpoint maybe it was a wise move. On the other hand I also understand the criticisms of this move because for the most part ArtWalk has become something much more than the business of art – it has become an enviable celebration of art that most cities ache for.

Downtown will need a critical mass of serious art buyers living in or very close to Downtown to become the SoHo of the west, or the Bergamont Station of the east. As wonderful as downtown is becoming, few Westside collectors will traipse to Downtown LA looking for serious art. As far as downtown has come it has a LONG way to go before perceptions change. Instead, collectors will continue shopping at the established art districts on the Westside that include galleries such as Regen Projects in West Hollywood, Blum & Poe in Culver City, La Luz De Jesus in Silverlake, Margo Leaven in West LA and so on….

What downtown needs to focus on are the things that are successful HERE … and are the envy of other neighborhoods. Find out what is working with ArtWalk and build on that. Fix as many problems as you can but also understand that there are some problems that will NEVER get fixed. If you are a regular reader of Blogdowntown’s “conversations section” you will know (all too well) that not everyone will agree on an issue. There is no way to make everyone happy. But that doesn’t mean you kill a great thing.

For my two cents – I feel that ArtWalk as a daytime, weekend event will probably not work. ArtWalk has its challenges but its working now. ArtWalk is best suited as a once-monthly evening event, the way that it is. Find a way to not throw the baby out with the bath water.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 08:27PM – #67

Bert Green has frequently posted to blogdowntown in the past. So how say you, Bert?

And per post #56, are you really thinking of relocating to the East Coast?

It will be sad if you turn out to be the bad guy (or major party pooper and dud) in this situation.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 08:29PM – #68

Blogdowntown? What follow up have you done on this? Who on the Art Walk Board have you talked to?


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 08:30PM – #69

Eventually this too will run out of steam, less people will start coming, people notice and it is not cool anymore. Everything has its' day. Once the momentum declines, you are running on fumes. Whoever? is running this are doing this event in. The art label gave it a hint of culture. Telling your parents you are going to an art walk sounds pretty tame. Little do they know it is a real frat party. DRUNKS? Do they have a designated driver? Have car accidents gone up on that night? Sounds like a night not to drive dntown streets.


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Jennifer Girsky on September 24, 2010, at 08:49PM – #70

Why can't we pull this off? Other cities are able to do this....


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 08:55PM – #71

Tony Hoover on September 24, 2010, at 08:16PM – #66

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I agree with you and give props to your comments.

Downtown LA over the years has come perilously close to being a sunnier version of Detroit/Cleveland. That's an outcome anyone should be both apprehensive and embarrassed about.


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() on September 24, 2010, at 09:01PM – #72

@Tony Hover I like your way of thinking. I think the whole celebration is a form of art itself...when it comes straight down to galleries and buying art, what I was talking about earlier, I think it loses sight. But just having it there the way you have mentioned is really wonderful.

Also the Stray Cat Cafe things are pure bull and sure to incite drama. Julie again eh?

I like the idea of everyone just keep on doin as they do...but that will require businesses and patrons banding together and starting something new. You can't just 'do' it. A pub crawl is fine and easy, but to do everything sans art would still require some planning.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 09:12PM – #73

Tom Gilmore reportedly "panicked" over developments. He thought he was in charge. Jay Lopez was chosen as easily manipulated, they all thought they were in charge and all the time it was the independent action of a few special interests acting on their own behalf. People, time to take charge of your art walk. Time to say "no" to special intersts and greedy manipulators. Just say "yes" to art walk.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 09:36PM – #75

There are issues when people cannot get in and out of their homes on Art Walk nights. Plain and simple, it's time for a break.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 09:41PM – #76

Art Walk will survive and THRIVE no matter what! I'm sorry the walk keeps gettin' plagued by these freaky-deaky-wolves in sheeps clothing people & I hope that next week a new committee will be reborn to take the DTLA community to the next level. Maybe people whom actually have a track record of helping to better the artists & business'! As a community and not just for themselves like these snakes! KARMA kicks in for these snakes! I'll stay tuned for sure & I really hope that everyone reads this blog so they can KNOW what snakes Bert Green-his gallery and his DTLX, Jay Lopez, & Edgar Varela really are! I was bit too many times to even talk about by all three of them in one way or another! Like I said, KARMA's WORKIN'. (Eric and Ed you'll find out soon enough, sorry to say, but you will! Then you can actually write/cover stories that have truth and merit to them!) I'll be there on 10/14 right along side the 15,000 others!!! Art Walk will thrive in DTLA!!!!


Chris Loos on September 24, 2010, at 09:41PM – #77

" There are issues when people cannot get in and out of their homes on Art Walk nights. Plain and simple, it's time for a break."

I always figured the break was the 30 days a month when its NOT happening.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 09:51PM – #78

An Art Walk committee that will better the residents, galleries, business', and artists during the event. Art Walk will thrive it needs proper management that cares & has a track record in the community of that!! Not just these schmucks and selfish sleazebags Edgar, Jay, and Bert!! Just what the other 'Guest' said...'Karma's workin' & I'm happy to say for you guys I hope it really is & you get what you deserve. BAH-HA to the other 30 days comments! RIGHT ON!! It's one friggin' night that helps the rest of the community thrive! Get over yourselves!


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 10:00PM – #79

Drama. I know Bert personally, he's good people. It saddens me to read all the false accusations, especially by those who have profited immensely from Artwalk. So let the blame game begin...but remember, at the end of the day "never bite the hand that feeds you" and I say that comfortably since so many local bars & restaurants owners openly admit that profits from Artwalk help keep business doors open. Geesh, can we get a "Thank you, Bert Green for helping aid in the revival of Downtown, creating a micro economy, and bringing awareness to an area that 6 years ago very few people would ever consider a destination/ community/ neighborhood." I'm not sure how or who made the final decision to move Artwalk to a quarterly, weekend event, but I believe that change is good. -Vanessa Acuna


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 10:01PM – #80

Art is art...it's subjective and it's okay to enjoy the party of art. To the 'aht' experts that have posted in favor of the squashing of the 'art walk': It is okay to drink even alot while enjoying art. If you like it & it's priced within your budget it's okay to buy it even if you get so drunk you have to find it the next day after work! Just because there's drinking and music and partay-hay fun doesn't mean the art isn't being appreciated or purchased. Get your noses out of the air!! It's art NOT aht!!


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 10:04PM – #81

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I always figured people like you were exactly the reason we moved out of the Historic Core.

The catastrophe that is the contemporary Art Walk was a close runner-up though. Don't miss it, not one bit.

If you really like art, the galleries are open on Saturday afternoons too.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 10:06PM – #82

" Property owner Tom Gilmore thinks the idea that the Art Walk could even be shut down is preposterous."

"BradyWestwater (@bradywestwater): The gallery owners recently met and agreed to two positions....And, with one exception, they voted against closing down Art Walk."

You two, who I have faith in, make me think Jay Lopez jumped the gun and screwed up getting the message out correctly. Either that, or he's trying to play ruler of the roost and professional buttinsky. If it's the latter, shame on him!


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 10:24PM – #83

I always figured people like you were exactly the reason we moved out of the Historic Core.

Far more people probably either move out or avoid the area altogether because of its traditional problems with aggressive vagrants, coke heads, ex-cons in flop houses, and all its pockets of gloom and grubbiness.

Assuming Art Walk is one of the area's shortcomings, it would be way down on the list.


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on September 24, 2010, at 10:49PM – #84

So I open up my favorite neighborhood blog today only to read that ArtWalk is cancelled. My first thought was, damn, what a drag. All those people making a monthly visit to the Historic Core in downtown Los Angeles can't come anymore? All those galleries that serve Merlot in a plastic cup and can't stay open late? All those bars and restaurants that opened up down here will need to close at 5PM from now on? The impromptu food court made up of taco trucks will need to leave the dirt lot vacant?

Why? Because one gallery owner decided he's just not making enough money from ArtWalk. Really?

Because ArtWalk became too wildly successful? Really?

Because there are, get this, people going to bars and drinking, while some even get drunk. I mean in other parts of town on this particular night of the month do other bars only serve tea and milk? Really?

Not really!

Kids, let's all be truthful here. How many of the fifteen thousand of us that showed up last month came to buy a $5,000 piece of art for your den? Did you bring cash or were you going to pay-pal the change from your iPhone®? Sure Art Walk may have started years ago to bring westsiders to the cheap rent galleries in DTLA. And it worked. At least enough to keep it going until it evolved to what it is today.

Most of the people I speak with tell me they come down to ArtWalk for the street scene, the salty and greasy accordion laden marching band touring 5th and Main, for the ridiculously fantastic artist on his knees on the sidewalk drawing a charcoal on paper portrait of a buxom blonde lit by a 99¢ utility lamp, for the electric crowds on the normally sleepy streets laying under the regal architecture from last century, for the empty lot with the organic-vegan taco truck next to twenty other taco trucks of every imaginable and unimaginable culinary stripe.

What part of this is not art? The price tag? Maybe.

I hold in high regard the pioneers of DTLA that started Art Walk all those years ago. But ArtWalk has evolved. And it will continue to evolve.

ArtWalk in DTLA is the noise, the crowd, the fun, the buzz, the hand made soaps. ArtWalk in DTLA is Blossom packed to it's gills still finding a corner to seat their regulars. ArtWalk in DTLA is my favorite pirate Ricky harmlessly yelling Arrr into the night sky as he lifts his eye patch to better focus on you while he tells you his mom is coming to visit...

THIS is ArtWalk in DTLA! And I love it.

At the risk of disappointing a few folks, I'm sorry but you can't cancel ArtWalk. Come October 14th I'll be walking in DTLA to take in all the Art I can, along with a few tacos and a maybe a few drinks! Join me?


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 10:54PM – #85

I understand that they are going to cancel Saturdays. Saturdays will now close at 6 to be replaced with a new kind of Wednesday, Sundays will swop with Fridays.....you get the picture....then go see the art Trish


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 11:20PM – #86

this makes me think of the yobs in Congress who play dictator with time and force us to change our clocks each year. So when daylight saving time comes into play, like a bunch of farmers out in the sticks, we're forced to wake up earlier in the morning and go to sleep earlier in the evening.

BAH!


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 11:23PM – #87

so the founder of Art Walk who had already turned it over, and the leader of art walk who was missing in action, decide to cancel it for 20,000 visitors? All the downtown businesses must stop so these 2 don't have to do any work? With no one else having a say?

I already thought that closing your gallery at 6 PM was making that point?

Just the way everyone supported The Must, the rest will support artwalk on Oct 14th.

Stay tuned for the next episode of Drama Downtown.

Looks like someones shot themselves in the face?


Guest 32

Guest on September 24, 2010, at 11:35PM – #88

I miss Joel Bloom


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 11:35PM – #89

I agree with #84.

I will be in DTLA on the evening of October 14 for ArtWalk whether its official, or not, because I like it that way.

I will NOT be wasting a sunny Saturday afternoon in January at ArtWalk - but I may be seen having a beer at Spring Street, or walking my dog, or having brunch at Bottega Louie.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 11:40PM – #90

Bert Green and the rest of the prima-donas are "taking their toys and going home." I moved downtown largely because Art Walk helped me fall in love with downtown. Sure, changes are needed to manage the crowds -- but here's the problem: some of the artists and galleries (The Hive, etc) actually knew how to handle the large crowds and took steps to BENEFIT from the large crowds. They were smart, they had business sense, and they adapted to a growing success. Then there are the haters who don't think they should have to sully themselves with "us" masses. I went into Bert's gallery once and commented about never being able to see his shows because I can't get off work in time. He just turned his nose up and gave some better-than-thou remark about "come on Saturdays. It's better without the crowds." I don't hate or begrudge him. He's done a WONDERFUL thing for downtown. But his elitist attitude really saddened me. ArtWalk is being harpooned because out-of-touch arts folks who have no business experience AT ALL can't stop fighting with each other....and they can't handle success. Sad. Sad indeed. I'm absolutely embarrassed.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 11:49PM – #91

These arguments are classic. And so obvious who is not a downtown resident.

You know, four years ago when I moved to the Historic Core, I loved ArtWalk. It was a fun night, kind of wild with a playful edge. I'd go to some of the galleries, pop by one of the restaurants, then head over to the Speakeasy (anyone remember?)

Since I want to keep my comment short and sweet, I'll just say this in defense of the decision to cancel the Drunken Stumble.

I don't mind the noise. I knew moving into an urban area would be noisy, so I deal.

I don't mind being harassed by the drunken tourists. It's a natural part of life and they scare easily.

No, what really upsets me, what honest to God truly scares me is when people try to break into my apartment at midnight. I always lock my door, so please don't make the half assed excuse that my door isn't locked so it's my fault. Since my building opens itself up as a gallery, it not only gets trashed, people come and go in the elevator as they please.

I'm glad ArtWalk is getting cancelled. If people really wanted to view art, they don't need an organized event to enjoy it.

But the defense of the people who support ArtWalk is the same: party, party, party. Don't forget that downtown is a residential area, and we don't appreciate our home being trashed, vandalized, and disrespected by people who's only excuse to come downtown is to get smashed and vomit terrible taco truck food, which by the way is taking away the business of the local restaurants.

Here's an idea. You want to come downtown to see the artwork? Come on a Tuesday afternoon when all the galleries are open, have lunch at one of the local restaurants, then have drinks at one of our many bars. Isn't that what the ArtWalk support claims to be doing? Then why does it have to be that Thursday? If you all really wanted to be involved in downtown, then come on a day of the week when it's not about the party.


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Guest on September 24, 2010, at 11:52PM – #92

To post #79 The same Vanessa that's name is in Bert Green's mag.

Read post #56 To quote for you: "The artwalk is a culmination of decades of art openings that traditionally were held on Thursday nights throughout the LA area. Bert really did not invent it. But ask him he will tell you it was all him."

So, no he does NOT deserve credit for reviving DTLA if anyone does it would be Tom Gilmore. Do your research or better yet stick around and you'll get disgusted by Bert Green as well.

Bert Green, Jay Lopez, and Edgar Varella deliberately tried to SHUT DOWN the only re-occurring event that helps to keep the community of DTLA alive! They deliberately tried to shut it down! That is NOT helping the community. They are only out for themselves...a strategic plan that you will see more of play out. The Art Walk can not BE shut down...can you believe the arrogance of them?


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Lizbeth on September 24, 2010, at 11:53PM – #93

#81 Thank you for moving out of the Historic Core. Seems it's not for you and you very well should not be there. And if crowds of people on the streets of DTLA one night a week is too much for you to handle you were never meant to live in a major cosmopolitan city in the first place. I will be walking the streets of DTLA admiring the art I can't purchase because I am a struggling artist myself and taking in Artwalk and all it does for my community on Oct 14. So should you. #85 Thank you, this is the spirit I appreciate: http://www.artwalkdtla.com/


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 12:03AM – #94

93

You are a few years too late for the scene. Time to find the next one somewhere else. Sorry you missed it. I hear Inglewood is about to pop.

91

Right on target. There was a time when the Art Walk was not overpowered by mass public intoxication and cheap truck food garbage. Let's revisit that time.


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Lizbeth on September 25, 2010, at 12:25AM – #95

#94 Thank you for your judgement but I have been here for more years than most, in fact all my life. Born and raised and appreciating the evolution of the community every step of the way. Inglewood. Really? Why bring down another neighborhood for the sake of derogatory humor? Not cool. I appreciate any difference of opinion but not low blows.


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Whitman Lam on September 25, 2010, at 12:32AM – #96

This would be a huge blow to the local economy. At a time when businesses are barely staying afloat.

Maybe they can replace it with a Chinatown Art Walk. I've always thought the galleries on Chung King road could use more visitors. And Chinatown also has restaurants, believe it or not.


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Tony Hoover on September 25, 2010, at 12:33AM – #97

I've read some of the comments about Artwalk participants being alcoholics and drunks and I find this offensive, inflammatory and unconstructive. It needs to stop.

I come to Artwalk with my friends, their teenage children and my 70 year old mother. Yes, there are a few drunks, but so what. I've always found the people at Artwalk to be a great group of people from all walks of life. ArtWalk is the rare occasion to see so much diversity in one place in this city. I love it and I'm proud of it.

A Saturday/Sunday afternoon artwalk geared towards serious art collectors who are willing to spend money on art simply WILL NOT WORK.

I would like to know...before whoever made this decision to send out a press release halting ArtWalk did he/she do their due diligence? Did this person (or persons) hire an expert to study whether or not there was really a market out there for the caliber of art sold at the galleries in Gallery Row to people buying from an ArtWalk?

Ball Nogues is probably one of the few "galleries" getting serious consideration in the district. I'm fairly certain that none of their business is coming from collectors at ArtWalk, or from anyone who is attending ArtWalk in Downtown LA.

I know art collectors. I know what they are looking for. Downtown LA galleries do not yet have that caliber of art. I don't mean to be disrespectful of the artists or galleries in the district, but the truth is just that. Art collectors/buyers are looking for art that is an investment and has the potential to appreciate - like stock. With one or two exceptions, none of the art galleries in Downtown LA offer that caliber of art.

If you are looking for art to decorate your loft or your office you may find it at an Artwalk in Downtown LA, but (really) are there enough buyers in Downtown willing to fork over $1000 to $5000 for decorative painting if you can find something comparable for $100 to $500 at a commercial gallery? In this economy? The answer is no.

This whole notion of reinventing ArtWalk to focus more on the art in Downtown LA will simply not work. There are galleries in Culver City, West Hollywood and West LA that are very established in the art world and will not be uprooting for Downtown anytime soon. None of the current galleries in Downtown LA can compete with them on that level.

What IS working however, is the fact that Downtown does a better job at CELEBRATING the culture of art than anywhere else in the city - - or the nation for that matter. We need to understand and EMBRACE that.

That's respectable, enviable, and in time (and when the climate permits) a new crop of galleries will come to downtown that will be seen as world class. The new Broad gallery on Grand Ave (in addition to what we already have) will certainly help solidify Downtown LA as a serious center for art. As Grand Avenue evolves, Downtown's gallery scene will rise to the occasion. Maybe a Leo Castelli will establish themselves in Downtown and discover a great batch of artists living under our nose?

But downtown is a long way from that happening.

In this day and age of "wanting it now" and "instant gratification" we need to learn to be patient. Give it time. The participatory success of the current Artwalk (as vulgar as some may say it is) will lead the way to greater cultural riches. It did in Paris, it did in New York and it will here to.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 12:38AM – #98

my complaint is that if they were going to cancel Art Walk, could we have atleast received some notice?

Anything?

So that we could have celebrated a closing instead of just having the news dropped on us like that.


Jonathan Jerald on September 25, 2010, at 12:41AM – #99

Let's just show up as if we never heard about any cancellation...


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on September 25, 2010, at 12:47AM – #100

funny thing about los angeles. we all want to live in new york city, but we can't handle the city part. love that some scaredy wus is all worried 'bout being broken into. i'll leave mr freud out of it but me thinks something else is going on. been living in these parts for nearly half a decade and for one do love the energy that is starting to appear hear in my neighborhood. never knew what all the fuss was inside the fancy galleries, but i do like the fact that folks are having a good time on my humble street.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 12:49AM – #101

To #91

If you have drunk people trying to break into your apartment on Artwalk nights, then why are you not coming down on your landlord or building association for not providing adequate security?

If people from Artwalk can get to your apartment that easily then what's security like in your building on other nights?

It seems very misplaced that you blame Artwalk for these kinds of problems. I would have it out with your building's management. Your problems will not end if they shut down Artwalk ... I assure you.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 12:54AM – #102

My name is Harry Webber and my partner and I have a business in DTLA. We are creative people and we decided to relocate our business from Long Beach to Downtown LA because of Tom Gilmore and Jamie Schwartzman taking us on a tour of Art Walk in preparation for our work on the Rowan.

That's right, we moved our entire operation into DTLA based on a one night a week street party. Now, my partner and I can afford to work any where we want to. Our advertising campaigns are some of the best known in America.

But we chose to bring our corporate clients into the Old Bank District. Into a whacked out loft space with broken mirrors as Art and boltless shelving as our design "motif." Why? Because our business is our art. Tom would probley say the same thing about why he moved his architectural practice here from New York. His business is his art.

Art Walk is not an intellectual Property to be tossed around like a political prize. Art Walk is an idea. It's an idea that started with a few gallery owners and got promoted by a few real estate developers and got fired up by the bar-a-minute gin and juice speculators and got taken over by young, fashionable, creative LA.

Now it's more than a celebration of Art. Now it is a celebration of the Creative Spirit.

So in celebration of that spirit I respectfully suggest we walk away from the bad blood and bad karma of the last 24 hours (or six years)of "Art Walk."

This is bigger than an Art Walk. This is an IDEA WALK. This is a spontanious monthly event that refuses to die for politics.

Give it a new name. Give it a new purpose in life. Give it a chance to be all it can be. Forget the past. Celebrate the IDEA.

Talk is cheap. I invite you to join with me and other creative people in DTLA to celebrate life as art. Let us do it right. Let us brand it. Let us license the brand. Let us apply the licensing fees to cover the cost. But please let us start with a fresh page. THE IDEA WALK.

If you want to help me pull this off, please check me out at Http://HarryWebber.com, or Google me. Then visit http://IdeaWalk.org (24hrs from the date of this post)for my plan. Then read it, add to it, tear it apart, help make it better, but give us your ideas.

If you do that, I promise to open my Roladex to every agency on Madison Avenue (I have worked at most of them) on Monday morning and start digging up a sponsor for the first IDEA WALK October 14th 2010.

Anyone who wishes to help in any way to make the idea of an IDEA WALK a reality, feel free to email me at

Thank you in advance for your help.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 12:59AM – #103

I broke into #91's place. I left soon since they had nothing of any fun. You boring ass. :)


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 01:06AM – #104

I think thats a great idea Harry. If Tom endorses this idea I will support it.

I would really like to hear what Tom thinks of all this mess.


Elann Zelie Lee on September 25, 2010, at 01:07AM – #105

I have been a resident of downtown l.a for more than 5 years. To hear that art walk wont happen next month is disappointing. I understand that it has grown to a large size of attendees, but to be at the 1st art walk and to see where it is at now is AMAZING. I wish they would have been a little more classy and informed the residents and business owners prior to making this decision. I think downtown art walk people have it confused. If it was not for the residents and store/gallery owners of downtown l.a the art walk would not be what it is now! so to make a decision with out our input is rude in my opinion. I hope people will come out anyways and show the downtown art walk people that it can still happen without their input!


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 01:38AM – #106

Same people, same lies, same deceptions, same mainipulations. Are we as a community to just chuck Art Walk success because of a few mean spirited people that act in their own interests? They don't represent the people. Perhaps it is finally becoming clear to all as to those that have done harm to this community in reality, supposedly in the name of leadership... those followers who continue to try and protect and make excuses for them have been nothing more than silly pawns used by a few self-centered people. It's easy for these people to scapegoat some, but they have crossed the Rubicon of merit and honourable behaviour. Take Art Walk back.


Maxx Gillman on September 25, 2010, at 02:29AM – #107

Art Walk is dead. Long live Art Walk.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 03:14AM – #108

Thank you, Guest #104,

Tom is an inspiration to all of who understand how difficult it is to be a developer and have a love of your community. I would be honored to have Tom bless the idea of the "Idea Walk".

But there is only 19 days to go and eight people have already signed up to help. If Tom is successful in his attempt to rerail the old "Art Walk" he will certainly have my support. If not, I'll be over here working with whoever will join in on "Plan B."

Think I'm not serious? Look at the time of this post. BTW the http://IdeaWalk.org web page is now up and ready for volunteers. The walk that celebrates the ART of YOU...The Idea Walk...is contemplating it's very first steps. Don't get mad. Get ready.

Harry Webber


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 03:57AM – #109

The announcement this morning was made without the authorization of the art walk board or any of the other constituents of art walk including the various civic organizations responsible for managing, financing and supporting the event. Downtown LA Art Walk greatly apologizes for this confusion and promises to deal with the source of the problem, as well as provide clear guidance on new plans once all stakeholders who represent the public, private and civic interests have had the chance to engage in conclusive deliberations. The many voices ignited by this discussion are greatly appreciated and are being heard and considered. Art Walk does first belong to the public, but perhaps keep in mind some keen words from Warhol as we work through this: "Business art is the step that comes after art." We do need to do a little business to help keep the art, and the celebration of it in Los Angeles, going strong. Wicks Walker


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 07:16AM – #110

Jay Lopez, Bert Green and friends took their time to kick out all of the galleries from contributing to this decision.

Did they do to the Art Walk what Julie Rico did to The Must? I truly hope not. But beyond some of their initial comments, the silence from them so far is deafening.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 08:41AM – #111

Bert Green is downtown just to keep the snobbery level up. We need a few art snobs just to give downtown some supposed class? He thinks.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 09:08AM – #112

To Guest #92: Yes, this it the same Vanessa Acuna who spearheads ad sales for DTLAX magazine, and? What's your point? You cowardly chose to hide behind a computer screen without identifying yourself, not me!

Of course, we all know Tom Gilmore is the so-called “father of the adaptive reuse ordinance" and I absolutely credit him for transforming historic buildings into residential properties and sparking a tidal wave of housing developments in Downtown LA, bravo...BUT it was Bert Green who founded the ArtWalk, not Tom Gilmore, Cedd Moses, or any of the other noticeable figures in the area.

My point is, let's not throw cheap shots & low blows simply because some of you don't understand "business art". And while I have no qualms about giving credit where credit is due, let's not forget that at the end of the day Mr. Gilmore is a REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER who takes prospective tenants on Artwalk tours as a way to "seal the deal" per se.

So is this really about art, culture, and community? Or is it fair to say that local bar & business owners are upset that they must work a little harder now to stay afloat and not rely heavily on a monthly event? There seems to be a lot of talk about bringing in "sponsors". Why hasn't the Artwalk Board done so already? And why haven't local business owners offered to help subsidize operating costs?

I, too, love Artwalk. I've been an attendee since the very beginning. It has been awesome to see it evolve and I look forward to it's next phase.

And yeah, once again, Vanessa Acuna (for the record).


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 09:13AM – #113

Whomever is in charge of Artwalk (which is now a little confusing) has a lot of work to do to repair this. The newspapers have now picked up on this story so its now spread to the four corners of the city. It will now take some serious effort to undo this.

If the persons who canceled Artwalk did so without board approval then there was some criminal negligence committed. This should be delt with legally. Remember, that businesses will suffer from this so there could also be a civil lawsuit filed at this point.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 09:34AM – #114

To Guest #114: Grow up! I think it's so lame how folks hide behind computer screens...If you have nothing constructive to say, don't say anything at all! -Vanessa Acuna


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 09:38AM – #115

I have been and continue to be somewhat unsure about the accuracy of Kim Cooper's claims regarding Bert Green and others tied closely to him and artwalk. But in one fell swoop, by their cavalierly shutting down an event of much importance to the community, they have lost a lot of their original credibility. And that's a shame, because everyone ends up hurt in the process.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 09:38AM – #116

AHHHHHHH, THANK GOD! The 2nd Thursday of every month makes me want to paste pickles and salmon to small kittens and light them on fire! I would rather have a 3some with Oprah and Ricki Lake than endure another ArtWalk!


Kim Cooper on September 25, 2010, at 09:58AM – #117

Guest #116, I have to ask, how can you, or anyone, still be unsure of the accuracy of my claims regarding what Bert Green and Russell Brown did to damage the Art Walk in 2009, when Russell Brown confessed during his DLANC grievance hearing, and the video of his confession is posted online?

http://vimeo.com/


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 10:09AM – #118

@Kim Cooper, this debacle staged by Bert Green (and Russell Brown) has convinced me that you were right all along about everything you put out concerning artwalk. I'm sorry I ever doubted you.

Maybe you can advice the people who want artwalk to continue how to proceed from here.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 10:45AM – #119

What Jay Lopez, Bert Green, Russell Brown, Edgar Varela have done is way worse than what Julie Rico did to the Must. With this cancellation of the artwalk the economic reality of the downtown art walk will crush the retail sector here. That are hundreds of workers and blocks of retail businesses. Although it was sad for the workers at the Must to lose their job. This is far sinister than a few workers out of work because of a landlord dispute. This is a diabolical plan by Bert Green and friends to manipulate the marketplace based on their egos. Yes it is their ego that is saying things like Jay Lopez,"It's a gallery event,' "We're coming back in January. People should be excited.""It's going to be huge," Lopez said. He said that the upcoming weekend event will stretch over Saturday and Sunday. "We've been discussing doing something like this for six to eight months."

WHAT???? It is already HUGE! Leave it alone. The only thing that needs to happen is that a new leader needs to emerge to take over the artwalk. Can Jay be dethroned? Can Edgar be dethroned, can Russell Brown be dethroned? This is obvious people. There are good honest hardworking people in the community that have besmirched by these diabolical people. I think that we need to start trusting them.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 10:46AM – #120

Kim Cooper @ #119, I did find myself giving Bert Green the benefit of the doubt -- admittedly far more to him than you -- because he did post comments to this website awhile back about his conflicts with you that seemed quite sincere and honest. Plus, he was (1) the originator of Art Walk and (2) he did have the faith to spend his time and money in establishing an art gallery in a formerly very hollowed-out part of downtown.

I also wasn't philosophically bothered -- as you said you were -- by his (or others) seeking sponsorship support from companies like GM/Cadillac. I continue to believe it would be idealistic and naive to feel otherwise, even more so in this down economy. After all, someone has to pay for all the nuts and bolts, and philanthropic, do-gooder sentiments go only so far.

I think everyone will get a better sense of whether you were crying wolf or not when more is heard from people like Bert Green. But at the moment, your credibility has risen quite a bit while Green's has taken a tumble.


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DawnC on September 25, 2010, at 10:48AM – #121

Too many crowds coming every second Thursday? Then why not make it EVERY Thursday? This would spread out the crowds and make everything less hectic. Clearly one night a month cannot handle the popularity so spread it out! What do you do when a movie or a play or a music performance sells out? Add more dates!


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 10:49AM – #122

kim cooper and julie rico need to stop using this as a platform for themselves. just because bert green was involved in trying to "kill" off artwalk doesn't make either of you less smarmy or right about what you did- kim during artwalk or rico to the must.

and for those who don't think russell brown hasn't been posting- open you're damned eyes he and bert are also all over this- everyone is just choosing to be anonymous at the moment. russell's posts are the longest and the most scathing..... i used to believe that there were people that really cared about downtown and all that was happening. now all i see are a bunch of people that have personalized so much and decided that they are above the community and can do what they wish. this includes all of them kim, richard, bert, russell even your beloved tom gilmore. all of them are guilty of ego and excess or, the worst crime of all, apathy- for it is only apathy that could lead someone to go out of their way to kill an event that was so close to everyone's hearts and so successful and so meaningful to downtown.

it is a crying shame that someone can't step in for the ACTUAL community and speak for us. this whole thing was planned to prove a point, and we are all just guinea pigs in their little experiment to force the police to govern the event themselves without paying for it. there should have been community involvement, not this cowardly, final hour scenario where the whole thing gets rushed to all the press and basically kills things.

and if i hear another kim/bert green rant or russell brown this.... i'm going to go postal. the only person that has consistently been about the community and actually helping people is fricken brady westwater.... you could all learn a thing or two about humility from that man. you should all be ashamed of yourselves for playing this little game.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 10:57AM – #123

LOL!


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 11:00AM – #124

The Art Walk is NOT officially cancelled. This requires a vote from the Board Members, which DID NOT happen prior to the press release. This was a breach of protocol and the responsible parties should be removed from office immediately (if not drawn and quartered.) This was a feeble attempt to hijack and discredit a free public event developed over time by entire Los Angeles community and owned by no one.

The event will continue as planned on Thursday, October 14. Downtown will come alive again as it always does on this night. The businesses will remain open and the event will flourish regardless of this flagrant act of sabotage. If anything, this failed coup may actually increase the attendance.

Meetings will take place early next week to determine the severity of the situation and the remedy. Please let’s stop the bashing; which simply reaffirms the jealous and desperate nature of a few bad-apples. And for the record: Russ Brown had nothing to do with this. Russ is there every night till closing, picking up trash if need be, which is more than can be said for the purported “Official Art Walk” organizers.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 11:01AM – #125

"and if i hear another kim/bert green rant or russell brown this.... i'm going to go postal."

Guest #124, you wrote the above after you wrote the following:

"this includes all of them kim, richard, bert, russell even your beloved tom gilmore. all of them are guilty of ego and excess or, the worst crime of all, apathy"

So you're going to "go postal" if others do what you do? Dude, are you off your medications? Why should you have all the fun?


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 11:04AM – #126

I really wish all of you creeps would just SHUT-UP and stop crying! This is amazing! hahahahaha


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 11:08AM – #127

It is always shocking to me that blogdowntown allows people to say things like I am going to go postal. Violence is not an answer to anything. There has been continuous calls to violence on this site and it is just a bad news precedent for this community to allow such violent people to post on this site. Really really sad. There has been violence in the past egged on by members of this site. This is just not what this site should stand for. Yet it seems acceptable. Rants are acceptable without the violent attachment should be the way this site should be run. Really sad Eric to allow this.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 11:14AM – #128

Russell Brown has already shown his colors in the past. So he may not be publicly saying anything now. First time ever. I am an artist and was kicked out personally by him from a prime corner I had selling my wares. I was given permission by the local Police officers. But Russell personally found some other officers to make sure I went away. So dont tell me about Russell picking up garbage. He too is trying to manipulate this somehow. I am sure whatever his agenda is it will come out soon. Russell Brown is not a nice man.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 11:27AM – #129

Russell Brown, Bert Green, Edgar Varlea, Jay Lopez and a few minions have attempted to destroy what took 6 years to build. Shameful. To think they had such credibility while all the time planning the end of our Art Walk. Nuf' said. I'll show up too. October Art Walk folks!


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 11:40AM – #130

Russell Brown has gone on the record as a supporter of the decision to change artwalk. Do you think Bert Green would have proceeded without his BID/DLANC connection?

BTW, Russell Brown has dreams of being a city councilman. You've been warned.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 11:53AM – #131

When are we going to get follow-up comments from Jay Lopez and Bert Green regarding yesterday's announcement? Or are they refusing to take calls and make statements right now?

Their absence from the ongoing debate makes them appear to know they've done something wrong, even unethical, and are sheepishly keeping a low profile. And what if that's the case? Did greed for either money or fame, or both, distort their judgment?

If they believe Art Walk will somehow bring a pot of gold to organizers in the future, then the greed-for-money part becomes more plausible. At the very least, hanging on to control of a non-profit entity in order to tap into possible salaries provided by that entity in the future -- even while not a lot -- would be better than having to go on welfare or run to the local unemployment office.

As for greed in getting one's ego stroked? That's pretty much a given. However, that by itself is not necessarily a bad thing. Ego boosting sometimes does make people more ambitious and resourceful than they'd otherwise be. So if a person's need to satisfy his or her ego indirectly leads to projects that help the community, then so be it. But ego boosting that actually hurts the city is a whole different matter.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 12:11PM – #132

Uh, not sure if anyone out there knows about UNIQUE LA (www.uniquela.com) but it's the largest independent design & art show IN THE COUNTRY and it's held right here in downtown LA twice a year. They've proven that 15,000 people will come downtown during the day to celebrate great design and community! What's nice about it is that it is curated, so it's not hit or miss but is truly about featuring good design and art -- and there are literally hundreds of designers and artists(they say over 300 I think?).

It's obviously very different from ArtWalk but proves that a day-time design event can be cool, so maybe there is hope for the new format they're talking about? In the meantime we'll continue to go to Pete's, Nickel Diner and the like to support them throughout the week as us downtown residents have always done, not just the one Thursday night a month...


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 12:45PM – #133

Nice shameless plug Sonja. Ugg.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 12:54PM – #134

Why are you shamelessly using this blog and the tragic power struggle of the Art Walk to 'plug' your event? That simply shows how selfish and inconsiderate you are of the DTLA community. Use it only for your own gain...Opportunist. You remind me of the button makers after 9/11 Unique La. This is about reparation & the Art Walk WILL BE GOING ON 10/14. Not about you #133.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 12:56PM – #135

I agree - stop plugging unique la - Vulture!


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 01:05PM – #136

How can you cancel something which can't be canceled? How can you cancel the uncancelable? How can you kill something when its heart is still beating? The heart beat of DTLA won't be stopped by a few demons (you know who YOU are) set upon bringing darkness and doom to this bright corner of the world.

Tell me this: has there ever been an engine that was stopped mid-flight? That was fallen at its greatest height? Is this the future we all dreamed of, or is this the beginning of a bright tomorrow?

Bert Green and Julie Rico, like two peas in a pod, have there sights set on destroying everything WE have built. Yes, WE. DTLA is not the domain of a few, it is not a monarchy, it is a socialist utopia where EVERYONE has a say and where each puts in as each takes out. This is our world, Bert Green and Julie Rico are the STRAY CATS in our community, and they must be banished. It may sound harsh, but like the streets we have made our homes, the grit and grime of the community is our driving force.

This is why we don't live in The Valley, this is why we'd rather chew glass than live in The Westside, this is why we are ALIVE.

Make it happen. Live the dream. An IDEA is what will bring Target to DTLA. And IDEA is what will bring The Must back. An IDEA is what brought us the Blogdowntown Weekly and the wonderfully written DTLAX magazine. An IDEA is the reason the Old Bank District is THE HEART of MY LIFE.

And IDEA WALK is the FUTURE. IDEAWALK.ORG. THE BEST IDEAS ARE TIME AND PLACE.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 01:06PM – #137

So where is DLANC in all of this? Should not there be a meeting called immediately to address this. The art committee should do something to help keep the artwalk going, shouldnt they. Patti are you going to do something?


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 01:24PM – #138

Re: #133-#136

Wow, what's with the haterade? Unique LA is a phenomenal event that's well organized and intelligently run that's paved the way for a number of other cool events now coming downtown -- and bringing with them the masses with disposable income interested in shopping local that help to support LA's downtown community and small business owners alike. The Art Walk's (mis)management would do well to take a page out of their book.

Oh, and let me guess... you're with Renegade and can't wrap your head around the fact that there's plenty of room in the sandbox for everyone to play nice? Talk about shameless. Shame on YOU.

As a native Angeleno and a DTLA resident, I echo #133's sentiment that regardless of the next Art Walk's incarnation, I'll continue to support all of the awesome downtown businesses that events like Unique LA and others help to generate real, sustainable business for... and so should you.


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 01:33PM – #139

Power corrupts. Democracy is the answer.


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on September 25, 2010, at 01:46PM – #140

Hello "guest", this is definitely now me. I didn't write that post but know who wrote it because they sent me the link, knowing I'd care, and I tweeted it out immediately. This is big news for me and all the people who choose to set-up their businesses in downtown LA. Here's the thing, I have no problem being a shameless promoter for (warning, here it comes...) UNIQUE LA and for other great events that happen in dtla like the new LA Craft Experience held in Chinatown and the Renegade Craft Fair. Because this is how community is built and some of my goals are to encourage people to explore downtown, discover our city and to show others that LA is not just made up of Hollywood and the beach. Opening up conversations and introducing people to one another is exactly what community is about and why we're all on here reading and commenting - we love and care about downtown. I will never feel bad about trying to expand LA's design community and show off downtown, just as ArtWalk does/did. And neither should my friends, fans, staff and vendors.

People who are passionate about downtown understand the need to talk about it and spread the word, because introducing others to the fact that there is a thriving scene is important. It's what the ArtWalk was so good at; bringing in mass amounts of people from outside the area and opening their eyes. I have no doubt large happenings will continue to take place with/without the official ArtWalk. Perhaps this is the moment when a few new people enter the conversation and start new events, take over with different ideas and creative vision (like my friend Alissa's great idea to close the streets, like what Times Square did in NYC).

And hopefully in a few months it will be a new school of organizers/leaders and their friends and fans who shamelessly plug a cool new community-based downtown event. I'm excited to see what change this will bring.


Guest 10

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 01:53PM – #141

This is interesting that Kim Cooper was backed by Julie Rico in her attempt to reveal the truth about these guys. Then attacked specifically by Bert Green and Jay Lopez and pals. Believe the hype if you choose. But my eyes are open now. Look at the real accomplishments not the rhetoric.


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Russell Brown on September 25, 2010, at 03:08PM – #142

From Russ Brown:

For those new to this discussion, I am Executive Director Historic Downtown Business Improvement Districts which includes the 90% of the Art Walk footprint on Main and Spring from 4th to 7th. I also was President of Downtown LA Neighborhood Council whose Arts Committee helped the formation of Art Walk along with the Gallery Row group and many partners.

If I was making repeated comments on this, I would sign in using my name. So here is the official sign in.

If folks want to make the Art Walk issues personal against me- free speech and old personal animosities.

Those are distractions. There is too much at risk here to make this about anything other than fixing this and staying focused.

For the record: There was NO discussion ever with the community, DLANC, HDBID, DCBID, LAPD, Art Walk board, myself or others that shutting down the Art Walk on no notice (or even with notice) was a solution. That suggestion was often made by a very very few and no one went there with any support.

It was discussed with the galleries and there was almost no support.

There was very significant discussion that Art Walk is less and less about supporting downtown arts. Art Walk is a large community open house with hospitality and food outlets mainly benefitting. Downtown is big and diverse so there are lots to spread around.

Personally, I think all of downtown benefits when folks visit and explore our neighborhoods. But Art Walk has lost its singular focus on the galleries and the arts and become a much bigger celebration of our neighborhood and urban living. Not a bad change to me, but not the focus of the galleries.

I recieved word from a board member 15 minutes after the announcement with no advance warning. I very very strongly disagree that this was anything other than a bad decision with many problems. Bert is a good friend of mine. He has created a great amazing Art Walk. But he also will tell you that I was given no heads up on this and I disagree very strongly with this decision. Jay and I have not talked for weeks on any of these issues.

I have had disagreements, many very strong, that Art Walk had to be managed and that the galleries were the core of Art Walk. Crowd control, sidewalk issues, noise, food trucks, trash pickup, liability issues ALL must be managed.

The leadership of Art Walk both now and last year, did not agree that managing the logistics and operations and impacts on the street was their responsibility.That included manging the finances of these costs. There are minimal partnerships with the galleries.

These issues could be ignored when the crowds were at 5,000 and manageable. It could not be ignored when the crowds were headed toward 25,000 with escalating costs.

Have I told vendors that they cannot be on the sidewalks blocking traffic without permits? Yes. That is why we created an Art Park vendor area with George Steihl and Stephan Northcutt of Citizen LA. 60 vendors. As long as folks are in private property and not on public sidewalks, they can do what they want.

Did folks like the food trucks blocking every sidewalk and parking space? The trucks were blocking driveways, fire hydrants, entrances to restaurants, trashing the streets and sidewalks and making the sidewalks impassable. That was why we worked with Matt Geller of SoCal Mobile Food Truck Association to place and permit the trucks at Barclay Hotel lot at 4th & Main/ Spring.

Some folks think this event should be an unmanaged spontaneous do-whatever-you-want circus. THAT IS NOT SAFE.

Enforcement includes managing amplified noise after 10 PM and crowds at risk for lack of security and crowd management. Enforcement has included managing patrons until 3 AM. Isolated and uncommon incidents have included visitors running through buildings throwing bottles off the roofs, pulling fire alarms, fighting, graffiti, folks running in front of cars and buses, artist climbing light poles drapeing chains acorss the street in the path of buses, shoplifting and smashing storefront windows along with the expected impacts.

These are issues the Art Walk itself creates and should be managing. Not others after the fact. That is the responsibility of the Art Walk organizers. Not LAPD, not the residents and not the HDBID.

We also have over 20,000 visitors that 99% act appropriately and explore our neighborhood and love the event. This has been going on for 6 years with no one hurt and it being mostly self policed. Indeed, Art Walk patrons are better behaved than a lot of the daily sidewalk craziness that can occur downtown. That to me is a great success.

We as a community have transformed this neighborhood and transformed how folks can show up and get involved. Where else is that possible or happening?

LAPD has been a great partner but their job is not sidewalk crowd control and herding food trucks and bar patrons and illegal sidewalk vendors.

The Art Walk logistics tab is at $6000 a month and headed toward $10,000 A MONTH. Who do you think needs to manage this and pay these bills? With no fund raising, no sponsors, no admission fees, how is this sustainable?

Folks don't like corporate sponsorships? Who pays to run the symphony, museums, kid's parks,every other street festival or your local girl scouts? It is partners and sponsorships.

The answer is not to shut it down, but to organize this so that it continues and is paid for. That does not mean that a Free for all on the streets that is not free to the group (HDBID) that must clean up afterward.

Art Walk has grown, is organic and always changing. That requires leadership and partnerships to keep it safe, sane, creative and exciting. That mission was lost recently and this is why we are in this discussion now.

Those changes will now happen, not as a power play, but as necessity. This is obviously not the normal resolution in which the management of events would occur. This does open the door to the very interesting debate of who owns community events, who really must do the work, and how are they paid for?

The Art Walk must also involve the galleries, the arts and the grass roots community. It is not solely a bar crawl, food truck court. The Art Walk was not managed by me, nor was I a party to the decision to shut it down. Nor do I agree with that decision.

However, it is an amazing community event that must be managed and paid for. This is not about personal infighting.

Please focus on the fixes. Show that this is worth fighting for and that there is a realistic way to keep this interesting, democratic, creative, fun, safe and respectful to the neighborhoods and its assets.

Feel assured that a team is already forming to get this back on track. A part of that solution is this discussion and the folks expressing their opinions. Every capable leader also can get involved in this.

The fat lady has not sung, she is not even in the building.


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 03:17PM – #143

And yet you knew this and did not act when you knew? Your words ring hollow and become a matter of self-preservation. Call for a community hearing. You refuse to name who or those responsible for this? Who was it Russell? If not you then who?


Guest 24

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 03:26PM – #144

The names of the people responsible for this blunder appear to be narrowing down to Bert Green and Jay Lopez.


Guest 37

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 03:26PM – #145

Thank you Guest 137,

So far we are up to 31 volunteers for IDEA WALK. If we can get to 80 volunteers, we will have what is required to create a "presence" for the "Idea Walk" re-branding initiative. With that capability, I feel confident we can begin talking with sponsors, as soon as Monday morning.

Our primary sponsorship efforts will be aimed at increasing the number of sponsored trash receptacles by 1,000 and their cartage, disposal and storage, and sponsorship for public safety services from LAPD and LAFD.

Once those issues are covered we will begin the process of recruiting sponsors for the 15 city blocks that currently make up the "Art Walk" itinerary. We see those "block grants" going to fund micro events that help to spread out traffic flow and ease pedestrian gridlock on certain corners on Spring and Main. We also see these block events being done in partnership with businesses and developers in each of those 15 blocks so that sponsorship dollars can be allocated to venues who host those mini events.

Finally we will be looking for two general infrastructure sponsors to fund a 24 hour liability and property insurance rider to help defray the cost of any physical or bodily damage done as a result of the event.

Thank you again for all of the kind and encouraging words and offers for help. Tonight, we hope to have http://IdeaWalk.org live so that we can keep you informed of our progress on a daily basis and in as transparent a manner as possible.

Respectfully,

Harry Webber


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 03:29PM – #146

"The Art Walk logistics tab is at $6000 a month and headed toward $10,000 A MONTH. Who do you think needs to manage this and pay these bills? With no fund raising, no sponsors, no admission fees, how is this sustainable?" - Russell Brown.

Amazingly bad planning. Isn't this what was supposed to be planned? And yet nothing was done. And why was it not done? Why are you talking about this now? Why was the community not make a part of this decision? Was there a gentemans agreement not to move on this? And Russell what was Jay Lopez' & Bert Green's part in this, - if you were so against this unwarrented end to Art Walk? Why not tell the whole story?


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 03:34PM – #147

Birds of a feather flock together.


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 03:46PM – #148

"Feel assured that a team is already forming to get this back on track." -Russell Brown

Who is picking this "team" you? OMG! ROFL! More of the same.


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Russell Brown on September 25, 2010, at 03:56PM – #149

Again,

The Art Walk is managed by the Art Walk board and the Art leadership. Its responsibility is the necessary community outreach and involvement. That board is volunteer, unpaid and does not provide services.

HDBID was voluntarily helping with crowd issues since we already provide the purple patrol downtown. We also work closely with LAPD and building security and others on all issues.

We also do the trash pick up in the public sidewalks and clean the sidewalks. The impacts were not our responsibility but we manage those after the facts.

The team is just like ArtWalk, a collection of 100 galleries, shop owners, restaurants, food trucks and individuals who show up, do the work and make it happen.

Looks like IdeaWalk can easily be part of that. My hope is that all who have a stake in this will go past just emails and create the solutions needed.


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 03:59PM – #150

The fox is attempting to recontrol the henhouse. This just cannot be true. And for a 2nd time.


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 04:05PM – #151

"staying focused" - Russ ... seems to mean don't find out the truth and who has been behind this miserable decision. Protecing anyone Russ? Like your good friends? HE asks us to just go along with the status quo and they'll pick the players. Anyone have a sense that this was the way the City of Bell was run? Recluse yourself and all prior board members and major players.


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Russell Brown on September 25, 2010, at 04:22PM – #152

I guess to the Guests it is much easier for anonymous comments of false corruption to be leveled than have a rational and truthful discussion.

Where is the corruption if there is no money in this?

Not sure how having public meetings monthly on Art Walk logistics with DLANC arts committee, Art Walk ED, LAPD, HDBID, Art Park vendors, food truck vendors and anyone who wants to show up is hiding the issues?

There are no other secrets that are hidden.

Not sure anyone can control 20,000 hens. Add in the 100 cats that are participants. The problem becomes keeping all safe and cleaning up the mess afterwards.


Guest 44

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 04:32PM – #153

"IDEA WALK" , please, stop the power grab and try to find another way promote yourself and your business. If you are so concerned with the news about ART WALK , then try rethinking the way it goes forward , get involved with the board and find or suggest ways to solve the issues at hand. Oh, and the name "IDEA WALK" , is really lame. Sounds very Disney.


Guest 44

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 04:38PM – #154

Russel Brown I don't know you personally, but you sound like a really decent and grounded guy. I appreciate your involvement in Art Walk and wish you good luck going forward.


Guest 1

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 04:43PM – #155

I have to hand it to Russell, when no one else picks up the slack he does. Don't blame him for the increasing costs associated with the growing crowds. When no one else, art walk board, director, building owners, bars and restaurants would step up to the plate to pay the costs he and the HDBID kept things clean and for what? Taking crap and blame from people who don't know the facts.


Guest 44

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 04:49PM – #156

Cheers to Russell Brown ! Thanks for taking the time to state some facts without stooping as low as some on this site have done thus far.


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 04:51PM – #157

Russell you failed to name the people that made the decision. You refuse to have a public meeting for the community, is that what you are really saying? Not even one? And it is not about anonymous comments, its what they are saying. Good try to again discredit peoples iquiries by attacking the messenger. And it is well known that if some people ID themselves you and your friends go on vicious attacks. Recluse yourself. Pass the baton. Bribes and payoffs and the stealing of money is not the only curruption. Undemocratic control of the means of public information and the public's ability to respond to arbitrary decisions and public disclosure are. You have a 'circle the wagons' mentality. Protect your friends by not naming names when you know who did this to Art Walk.


Guest 44

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 04:57PM – #158

160 , Did what to Art Walk? stop crying you fool. It is being reorganized, and re-thought so that it can be managed in a more safe and sane way. Jesus, you act like someone died. Grow up already and stop accusing people without knowing the facts.


Guest 23

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 05:07PM – #159

"The fat lady has not sung, she is not even in the building."

Maybe not, but she's finally posting here after this discussion has run amok for 24 hours.

I suspect Russell is covering his rear end. Bert Green is his bosom buddy but Tom Gilmore, as a major funder of HDBID, is Russell's boss. Money talks and when Tom snaps his fingers, Russell hops. Look at him hop now!

I suspect that Bert Green will be having a quiet night in tonight. He'll be laying low and out of sight.


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Russell Brown on September 25, 2010, at 05:07PM – #160

Again,

The Art Walk board and leadership is in charge of the Art Walk. Wickes has already posted here several times.

This was announced unexpectedly about 24 hours ago. It has been stated clearly it was not authorized by the Art Walk board.

Not sure how having an emergency meeting with little notice with an undefined agenda of an organization that I am not even a board member of, is my fault. I also am no longer a board member of DLANC after 8 years of NC involvement.

Art Walk will continue in October.

Folks can come down tonight and see an amazing art event (FREE) by Lilly Meuler and many other artist called Autumn Lights at Pershing Square from 7 PM to 2 AM. There is also the 35th anniversary celebration of Rocky Horror Picture Show with Barry Boswick in attendance at the Million Dollar Theatre.

So keep the Frankenstein torches and pitch forks on hold and do the "Time Warp" and Autumn Lights instead.

It all could be worse. Art Walk could have been canceled and no one noticed or cared.


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 05:29PM – #161

#162 We don't know the facts because they refuse to share them. And if Russell is not involved why is he involved? Public organizations should be transparent. And the only "fools" here may be those that allow this to pass without a fact finding inquiry so this does not happen again. I do admire Russell responding though. And as to the "regroup" who is doing the regroup? Who is calling the shots? Why do we not know? And why have the rest of the board members not responded or been vocal? One thing I do believe, Russell at least has guts to come forward when the others did/will not, except one. So 1 point to Russell and 0 for the rest. And if no one in the public knows what is going on why your comments? Do you happen to be part of that group? Do you know who did this? " I think thou protest too much."


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 05:50PM – #162

To prevent this from happening again I suggest:

  1. Know all the facts and minutes of all board meetings, make them public.
  2. Know who the non-board, and public and commercial participants are that have been involved in decision making for Art Walk.
  3. Connect the dots from to Art Walk from/to all other public and private entities.
  4. Hold a public hearing on what has taken place so the community can speak in a public forum regarding Art Walk, as in a formal hearing.
  5. Have the City Attorney's office/Mayor's office review the process and decision making of the board and make formal suggestions for creating on-going democratic institutions.
  6. Give ample time for the community to respond to any major decisions.
  7. Keep minutes and actions of the board on file for public review.
  8. Not allow the means of information to be shut down and hijacked.

A good start.


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 06:11PM – #163

PS and yes one board member did speak out. 1 point there too. But where are the rest, asleep?


Guest 24

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 06:18PM – #164

I hope none of the anonymous posts above that continue to slam Russell Brown are from Kim Cooper. If not, they sure do drip with a sense of personalized grievance or martyr-like resentment about him. After all, she is one of the few people I'm aware of who apparently would, rightly or wrongly, feel that way about him.

I recall sensing that such a tactic was being pursued by Ms. Cooper a few months ago, involving another thread at blogdowntown that Bert Green was actively posting to. That's one reason I wasn't too confident about both her objectivity and accuracy. However, given the stunt that Green has just pulled, I can now understand why she has felt so cynical about him.

But as #162 says, the comments here from Russell Brown do seem forthright and restore the credibility he had lost in my eyes when I at first suspected he was one of the players behind the nonsensical announcement yesterday.


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Russell Brown on September 25, 2010, at 06:19PM – #165

And folks wonder why no one wants to be leaders of community organizations?

Maybe its the glory of zero pay, little personal life, targets on your back with folks who are experts that have never attended any of the meetings.

Guys and gals, this is your chance to change things. Not burn everyone out who wants to fix it.

If others do all the work, so much better because all the problems will be solved.

There will be no Saturday afternoons with Drama Downtown with Brown. Maybe a Downtown Brown brewsky sounds good now. (Sorry UCEPP)


Guest 44

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 06:28PM – #166

Brown, I would have a beer with you anyday, you sound like a stand up guy. So sorry you have had to endure the harsh comments on this thread today. Here's to you. Have a good evening .


Guest 23

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 06:30PM – #167

"Maybe its the glory of zero pay, little personal life, targets on your back with folks who are experts that have never attended any of the meetings."

.....or maybe it's ego, Russell Brown, or power. Whatever it is, you've willingly chosen to do what you've done and what little you're doing now. Stop bitching.


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 06:42PM – #168

#165 Because of lack of openess how do we know who is involved or not involved? Unless you know something the rest of us do not know? And like it was said above, where are the minutes of the last art walk board meeting? I think that would say all that needs to be said, and then open this up to the people. I think it was honorable for Russell to respond, but why so late after the decision making was made? And I agree with Russell no one person should have to sacrifice when we can all come together as a community and help develop and selct those that will represent us, the little people. Why is it so difficult for some to support a transparent community organization? Russell may indeed be burned out, how could you not be? But that does not speak to the open knowledge of facts that should be shared with us all. Time for a change. Time to reinstate a democratic open process. If you don't support that, perhaps the democratic model is not for you...and that would be a bit unAmerican in my view. Consent of the people. And I would think that Russell or any public figure could dedicate themselves to that end. And btw: there was a cover-up of public knowledge and information in the city of Bell.


Guest 37

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 06:44PM – #169

#154,

My name is not "Idea Walk." My name is Harry Webber. I have no need to promote myself or my business through this unfortunate series of mishaps. I am the creator of "I'm Stuck On Band-Aid Brand," the longest running television campaign in history.

As for the existing Art Walk infrastructure, I have sought and received a great deal of insight and inspiration from a number of interested parties, but I told them, as I am telling you, "Idea Walk" is no more than an idea until the community decides otherwise.

Your opinion on the name "Idea Walk" and its being lame is duly noted. And I will take your suggestion and talk to my clients at Disney about sponsorship if "Idea Walk" meets my required support criteria.

Let me assure you #154, if the powers that be can resurrect "Art Walk" to a workable event, thy will have my full support. If not, "Idea Walk" is simply a viable Plan B. No more. No less.

Again, it's

Harry Webber


Guest 24

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 06:45PM – #170

....or maybe it's ego, Russell Brown, or power.

Or maybe it's actually a sincere desire on the part of him (and others) to restore the health and vitality of the community.

Before the invention of the Internet, it was impossible for pretty much all of us to easily, publicly express our frustration and even disgust at just how far downtown LA had fallen apart.

I remember that back in the 1990s, the prevailing sentiment in parts of the media (the LA Times, as one example) -- particularly around the time of the riots -- was that the only folks appalled at the sad and impoverished condition of the city's center were mainly either greedy landlords, money-hungry developers or racially insensitive opportunists and elitists.


Guest 10

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 06:49PM – #171

OMG Russell Brown taking the lead. Russell Brown saying we cannot call an emergency meeting. HA! Russ you have many times in the past when it suited your purposes created emergency meetings. Russell: "For the record: There was NO discussion ever with the community, DLANC, HDBID, DCBID, LAPD, Art Walk board, myself or others that shutting down the Art Walk on no notice (or even with notice) was a solution. That suggestion was often made by a very very few and no one went there with any support." Yeah Russell you were backing Bert all of the way. I see Bert going into the exchange with bottles of booze to smooze you. Give us a break that you did not know what was going on. Something is up here. Russell and Bert must have decided to do this so that Russell can keep his power and it can be doled back to his group of people. Russell shows up as the savior? What? This happened because of him. He stopped the galleries participation along with Bert. Took Cadillac money away from the non-profit ArtWalk then kicked out Kim and Richard. There is a structrure it is called ARTWALK. The leaders need to be usurped and kicked out yes Jay Lopez and Bert Green and friends. I also Call for Russell Browns removal well Tom wake up cant you see you are up a gang here. Jay-Bert-Russ. Come on. Russell Brown itimidates poor starving artists on the street. He comes up with solutions that benefit him in the end. By keeping his job. He is one of main culprits that needs to be taken down immediately. Otherwise, this neighborhood will continue to be controlled by a complete nut case bully gang of him Bert and Jay. WAKE UP PEOPLE! We need to move on with a new leadership group. Yes the truth needs to be made public so that people understand the situation better. The past matters. This is about formatting the future of the artwalk! Also, Russ how is it that you are taking poor starving artists off the street but at the same time operate an entertainment venue at the exchange without the proper CUP authorization? LAPD please take note. I think you need licenses to serve drink and sell booze and entertainment. You should look at yourself first before you go busting anyone else.


Guest 24

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 06:59PM – #172

Yeah Russell you were backing Bert all of the way.

When you make such inflammatory statements or accusations, it would be better if you weren't doing it anonymously. Otherwise you come off like a troll.

Bert Green's ongoing failure to say anything about this topic, other than the quote he gave in Eric's article, makes him look worse as each minute goes by. Similarly, all the anonymous snotty comments directed at Russell Brown should raise an eyebrow until and unless Kim Cooper clarifies she has absolutely no connection to them.


Guest 15

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 07:03PM – #173

Downtown Drama Brown! It's amazing how you measure this situation in the number of minutes it took from announcement to when you heard about it.

In reality, the unsustainable position the Art Walk has been heading is obvious to anyone who has watched this event from up-close, afar or from the inside.

It is likely less than 10% of the current Art Walk participants come to the area with a plan on what galley show(s) they intend to see. Instead, it's 90% people watching other people and, as the hours progress, increasing belligerence. It's time to regroup.

A hiatus is a great idea. Thank you to whomever thought of it!


Guest 23

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 07:23PM – #174

......or maybe it's because you have no personal life or you are insecure or have a compulsive need to be the center of attention, Russell Brown.

.......and maybe all of this helps you to sell booze at the Exchange.


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Russell Brown on September 25, 2010, at 08:21PM – #175

Glad to know that making it personal and nasty is fixing ArtWalk.

I guess Kim and Don can not actually have a conversation about fixing this instead of trading insults again. How about making this about ArtWalk?

Same group that anonymously harps is at work again.


Guest 29

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 08:34PM – #176

blah blah blah...haters creating drama without offering any solutions. stop whining and create the change you want to see. - vanessa acuna


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 08:40PM – #177

Always the attack Brown why not answer the questions? Especially #163.


Crew Est on September 25, 2010, at 08:41PM – #178

Don't know who started putting all this BS about shutting down Artwalk, but rest assured we will be open on Oct.14th!

Don't believe the hype! People are making their own statements and have their own political agendas.

We (all the gallery owners) met last month to talk about changes to Artwalk. Never did we agree to shut it down!

The Artwalk Nonprofit board or group doesnt want to get stuck with the bill of paying for the monthly event so they make these radical statements. But those are not the views of us, the Gallery Row and Artwalk stakeholders!

So we'll see you next month and every month after that! You can't stop people from shopping, dining, and viewing art in the galleries!

Btw..don't wait for an Artwalk to come visit and enjoy great art. Most of us are open regular business hours, 6 days a week for us!

"Faces of Skid Row" Oct.2nd and runs all month.

More info: www.Crewest.com


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 08:43PM – #179

Russell, it was not the people you mention that made these decisions about Art Walk, nice try again to avert attention to yourself. Easy to take the heat off yourself by attacking others. And questions and plans are not attacks as I see it. Y tu'?


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 08:47PM – #180

Yes #163 is a plan. Where is yours Brown? That is a plan without any attacks, but you attack rather than answer. It does sound more and more like Bell CA.


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 08:51PM – #181

Yeah, it was everyones falt but the people involved in the Art Walk decisions. ROFL!


Guest 4

Guest on September 25, 2010, at 08:59PM – #182

Russell you failed to name the people that made the decision. You refuse to have a public meeting for the community, is that what you are really saying? Not even one? And it is not about anonymous comments, its what they are saying. Good try to again discredit peoples iquiries by attacking the messenger. And it is well known that if some people ID themselves you and your friends go on vicious attacks. Recluse yourself. Pass the baton. Bribes and payoffs and the stealing of money is not the only curruption. Undemocratic control of the means of public information and the public's ability to respond to arbitrary decisions and public disclosure are. You have a 'circle the wagons' mentality. Protect your friends by not naming names when you know who did this to Art Walk.


Kim Cooper on September 25, 2010, at 09:03PM – #183

Hi folks, I've been out all day leading a bus tour and eating with friends, and am now catching up on the day's comments.

For the record, I do not post anonymously to Blogdowntown about my concerns about Russell Brown's and Bert Green's unethical behavior. I always sign my name, and I have taken significant personal abuse for doing so, including threats of physical assault in prior comment threads.

I can't imagine why anyone would assume that every negative remark posted anonymously about these two gentlemen comes from me, since they step on so many toes in the community. I'm merely one person who, having seen their corrupt, anti-democratic and destructive behavior from an unusually close vantage point, chose to speak up about how they were trying to destroy the Art Walk... 10 months ago. Since the Art Walk has now been so gravely damaged, and by all hints posted above Mr. Bert Green was deep in the midst of the action, I'm going to come right out and say: I warned you.

Russell Brown spouts a lot of hot air about how he thinks Art Walk needs to function. All his talk eventually wears down the listener/reader, and your eyes glaze over, and all the community-centered buzz words have their desired impact: if you didn't know better, he might sound like a good guy with something to add to the dialog. Don't be fooled. He's a fake community activist who as its President dragged DLANC through the mud while serving the economic interests of the BID, his employer. And for all his talk, this disorganized blowhard rarely does much of anything concrete or beneficial--though he'll chew your ear off claiming otherwise.

I find it simply fascinating that the week a new person is sworn in as DLANC President, the BID is suddenly no longer willing to pay the bills for the Art Walk--costs which were never formally presented to the board during my time with the organization (January 2009-June 2009 transition period, July 2009-November 2009 on the board).

Yes, Russell Brown spouts a lot of hot air. He inhibited the actions of the board my husband Richard Schave led with his demands that the non-profit board kowtow to him, his threats of a bill from the BID that never actually came due during our tenure, and his bizarre control freak behavior that came down to his need for constant attention and validation from a volunteer management team that had important work to do--work which we were kept from by Russell Brown's annoying interference, false accusations, and grandstanding.

Russell Brown had an opportunity to take over management of the Art Walk in early 2009, and he passed. As soon as an effective team of community activists started the work he wouldn't do, he inserted himself into the situation and made it impossible for anyone to get anything done. From his own meandering statements above it sounds like he admits to alienating yet another Art Walk Executive Director, and now he wants to take over and "fix" the mess he made in this community. Thanks, but no thanks, Junior. Art Walk has had enough of the kind of "community building" you specialize in.

Guest #121, let me clarify my position regarding corporate sponsorship and the Art Walk. Richard and I saw major sponsorship as the only way to keep Art Walk free and functioning, and among our last acts on the board was to secure the pro bono services of a highly qualified brand strategy team. Our intent was to raise enough money to make Art Walk truly independent of the BID, whose compulsory support came with so many strings attached.

However, seeking out an appropriate sponsor that makes a serious, ongoing and high-value commitment to the community and the non-profit is very different from people like Russell Brown and Bert Green, who were not on the Art Walk board, secretly negotiating a "corporate sponsorship" from Cadillac, which they gave away for free. In doing so, I contend that they negatively impacted Art Walk's brand identity. An exhibit of Cadillac SUVs on Main Street, with an indie rock band and hired dancers, was an ill-conceived presentation that created the only largely uninhabited space on Main Street during a very well attended Art Walk, as shown in the latter portion of this video http://vimeo.com/ . This also impeded the ability of the non-profit to seek sponsorship. And in fact, it seems no serious fundraising has occurred in the past year, since Russell Brown interfered with the sponsorship process.

And actually, we were shooting much higher than a simple corporate sponsorship model: after we resigned, Russell Brown and company took the meeting we had requested with Rocco Landesman, the incoming NEA Chairman who has expressed deep interest in the arts as a way of revitalizing historic city centers. Have you heard anything about a major grant from the NEA coming to benefit Downtown and the Art Walk? Nope, neither have we--another wasted opportunity sucked up by Russell Brown, a man who lacks any creative vision, but insists on being at the center of anything happening in his immediate vicinity.

See link below for October 2009 press release citing our intention of seeking Federal Community Development Block Grants and NEA funding to support artists moving into the Historic Core: http://explosivepr.com/pipermail/downtownartwalk_explosivepr.com/2009-October/000004.html

See link below for participants of Rocco Landesman's "Public Forum: Arts, Culture, and Urban Revitalization": http://www.lastageblog.com/2010/03/12/nea-chairman-rocco-landesman-to-visit-los-angeles/


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 09:05PM – #184

It's the Communists, no it's the Asians, no it's the Blacks, no it's the Hispanics, no it's the Boogymen of the made up imaginations of a few people. No it's anyone but those that made or were part of the Art Walk decsion process. When they can't respond, when they can't take the idea of democratic process, they attack those calling for an open and democratic process. Por que?


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 09:40PM – #185

Queridos amigos y vecinos Latinos. Tienes que oír su voz. Artistas hablar. Esto es acerca de usted también.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 09:48PM – #186

Kim needs to read blogdowntown more often.

http://blogdowntown.com/2010/07/5514-nea-grant-to-help-develop-concept-for-broadway


Kim Cooper on September 25, 2010, at 09:52PM – #187

Yes, I am aware of it. That grant has nothing to do with Art Walk.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 10:00PM – #188

Bert Green, I know you're out there reading this. I just want to reach out to you and tell you that everything's OK.

Yes, you got a little carried away and jumped the gun. Sure you've been frustrated because the Art Walk didn't focus so much on the art anymore. And it's not a bad idea to have an additional weekend event just for the art.

You just need a hug now, Bert. You made a little error in judgement but, really, it's all OK.

Just communicate with us, Bert. Check in with us so we don't have to worry about you.

It's safe. We care and we miss you. Come out now and return to the community that loves you.


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 10:08PM – #189

Shutting down Art Walk is a "little error"? My side is hurting from laughter. People vote with their feet. What would be a big error?


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Guest on September 25, 2010, at 11:12PM – #190

I am co-owner of Arty gallery, 634 S. Main Street, and I am hereby canceling Valentine's Day, effective immediately. -- Catherine Coan

PS: Arty will be open for Artwalk Oct. 14. We were always gonna be.


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Guest on September 26, 2010, at 12:27AM – #191

READER'S GUIDE FOR THESE COMMENTS:

Any post that has a person's name in it is to be skipped.

ALL OF US ARE TIRED OF Y'ALL'S BULLSHIT.

AND THERE ARE MORE OF US THAN THERE ARE OF YOU, DILLWEEDS.

THAT IS ALL.


Guest 47

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 12:28AM – #192

Vanessa Acuna are you the spokesperson in the small group that is forcefully trying to terminate the monthly Art Walk? By your comments you seem to feel that since the founder wants to end the current format, he should be able to forcefully do it with whatever way he feels like it since according to Russell Brown what they just did had the support of "very very few" Russell Brown: "For the record: There was NO discussion ever with the community, DLANC, HDBID, DCBID, LAPD, Art Walk board, myself or others that shutting down the Art Walk on no notice (or even with notice) was a solution. That suggestion was often made by a very very few and no one went there with any support.

It was discussed with the galleries and there was almost no support."


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Guest on September 26, 2010, at 12:53AM – #193

Art Walk lovers, we did this to ourselves by not doing a better job of managing this community event and being responsive to the volunteers involved in making it happen each month.

We need to be listening right now. People would not feel the need to go to the extreme of pulling the plug unless there were some fundamental issues that needed to be addressed for them. Respect the message, don't attack it.

If you are assigning blame rather than accepting responsibility for how you individually, collectively, professionally or philanthropically contributed to the implosion through action or inaction then you are the problem.


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Guest on September 26, 2010, at 12:54AM – #194

And for all his talk, this disorganized blowhard rarely does much of anything concrete or beneficial--though he'll chew your ear off claiming otherwise....Yes, Russell Brown spouts a lot of hot air....his bizarre control freak behavior....Thanks, but no thanks, Junior.

The way a person writes is not necessarily a window into his or her soul, but you do realize you have an overly nasty, hostile edge to your tone? That's why some of the anonymous posts here that drip with a similar amount of bile seem so closely related to you.

Russell Brown, by contrast, has commented above in a way that doesn't contain all the odd aggression and fury. Of course, he could be merely better at spin so as to elicit sympathy and not alienate neutral third parties (like me). But you've got to realize that all we have to judge you two by are the words you put together.

secretly negotiating a "corporate sponsorship" from Cadillac, which they gave away for free

So what was the following all about? They gave it away for free, while you (or at least your husband), on the other hand, turned down the possibility of money coming in?:

Loge said he was initially brought on to the board to raise money for Art Walk, and he nearly negotiated a $50,000 grant from a corporate sponsor. Schave rejected the gift, Loge said, because he thought the sponsor would clash with the event’s grassroots identity.

But since we have yet to hear a peep from the only person who really looks the most suspicious (or incompetent) in all of this, referring to Bert Green, nothing else is quite as relevant right now.


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Guest on September 26, 2010, at 01:07AM – #195

I was assuming JARRITOS was in some way a Corporate Sponsor http://www.downtownartwalk.org/enter-the-jarritos-flavor-city-art-contest-%E2%80%9Cdrink-out-loud%E2%80%9D/ They sure are getting the exposure by giving away what I assume 1000's of Jarritos at the Art Walk.


Vonn Butler on September 26, 2010, at 01:58AM – #196

Awe Man! What no one has mentioned is the economic impact to DTLA. The city should suck and pay for it from the Quimby fees that are levied on new residential units in the city, with the several-thousand-dollar ante added to a pool of funds to be spent on park projects within two miles of where the fees are collected. To date we have NO parks in downtown. In fact the funds were being used for parks on the Westside is what I read a couple of years ago in Downtown news. They aren't using it for parks, so it should be used to cover Art walk expenses.

There needs to be a study of the taxes collected on 15,000 people showing up once a month in DTLA. I am sure taxes collected are more than the $10,000 it costs to clean up the streets. For the most part the crowd is well behaved. Many of my friends come to hang out. Its one of the few nights real people outnumber the homeless. DTLA is the city. If you want quiet, move to the suburbs.


Kim Cooper on September 26, 2010, at 02:40AM – #197

#195, you are right that when I write about Russell Brown, my frustration comes out. But again, I always sign my name when writing about him. He's done such pointlessly hurtful things, to my family and to this community. Throughout my dealings with him as an elected member of the Art Walk board, even while he lied to gallery owners and to the board about my family's full-time volunteer work in order to further his political and business agenda, I held my tongue and treated him with an exaggerated courtesy.

The time for such pretty talk is past. The present problems with the Art Walk come directly out of this man's policies, and while it's almost a year since I attended a board meeting, I can read between the lines to get a good sense of what happened to Art Walk this week. I'm not helping the community by doing anything other than laying it on the line: Russell Brown is a dangerous and dishonest person with a track record of making bad things like this happen. He admits, on video, to having collaborated with Bert Green to sabotage the Art Walk non-profit from even before my husband Richard Schave took over management of the event from Bert Green. http://vimeo.com/

I am so glad you quoted "[Marc] Loge said he was initially brought on to the board to raise money for Art Walk, and he nearly negotiated a $50,000 grant from a corporate sponsor. Schave rejected the gift, Loge said, because he thought the sponsor would clash with the event’s grassroots identity."

If Marc Loge really had a $50,000 corporate grant nearly sewn up just days before Richard and I were forced out of running the Art Walk, why did he not seal the deal once we were out of the picture and he became acting Executive Director? Why is Art Walk still unsponsored and arguing about how to pay its bills? Because there was never any $50,000 grant.

That quote was a falsehood told to the Downtown News by Marc Loge in November 2009 in order to put a positive spin on the fact that he, Russell Brown and Bert Green had been caught secretly negotiating to give free corporate placement to Cadillac on Main Street during Art Walk.

There was never a grant proposed by Marc Loge at the October 2009 board meeting or at any other time, for $50,000 or any other amount, and Richard Schave never rejected a penny in corporate sponsorship. How could Richard have rejected a grant which was only "nearly" "negotiated" and did not actually exist?

The smear campaign that followed our resignations took the form of accusing us of being out of touch with the tough realities of running this non-profit, and being too "grassroots" to accept Cadillac's money. Cadillac had merely asked, through Marc Loge, that on less than a week's notice Art Walk volunteers dedicate their limited time to finding space where GM could exhibit their cars and SUVs for free and curate some entertainment to attract an audience to the cars.

At this October 2009 board meeting, Marc Loge presented two poorly documented marketing proposals by which Art Walk was not guaranteed to receive any income, but volunteers were to be put to work to provide free marketing support. No vote was taken on either proposal. The following day, when follow-up questions were asked about how these proposals might actually play out, Marc Loge quit the board rather than answer. He then continued working with Russell Brown and Bert Green to bring Cadillac to Art Walk in secret.

Documentation on how this situation actually went down is included in the archival Art Walk email website, linked below (search the keyword "Cadillac" to find the start of this section):

http://artwalk2009.wordpress.com/

It was in direct response to the smears in the Downtown News, from Marc Loge, Russell Brown and Bert Green, that I was forced to speak out to defend my reputation and my husband Richard Schave's. You will note if you look at the Downtown News article (link below) that Richard had no comment beyond the fact that we had resigned. We were prepared to walk away and let the board figure out how to work with Russell Brown while serving the community and the non-profit's mission. We hoped they would be able to do so. It was the people who engineered our departure who had to have the last untrue word in the local paper, and who gave us no choice but to defend ourselves by telling the community what had happened.

http://www.ladowntownnews.com/articles/2009/11/16/news/doc4afdec9259851035245402.prt

#195, here's a thought exercise. Let's say that you, your spouse and your sibling put your business and personal lives on hold for nearly a year while you volunteer full time for a community project you believe in. You then watch in stunned horror as your work is sabotaged and your reputations smeared by a few members of the community you've been working to benefit, and then see the amazing event you were trying to make better get derailed for no good reason. Then let's make a study of how you write and talk about the people who did this thing to you and to the event you cared about. It won't all be sunshine and fuzzy kittens, I promise.

But I wouldn't wish this on you, or on anyone. If I have anything to say about it, this particular crew of bad actors won't be able to trick anyone again. All I ask is that you think for yourselves and ask the hard questions. The evidence is out there for anyone who wants to put the time in to parsing it. The link below is a good start.

http://stepdownrussbrown.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/whatwentwrong/


Guest 29

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 05:37AM – #198

To #193: Id yourself and THEN I'll give you my 2 cents. Otherwise, don't throw my name out there just because!


Guest 29

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 05:47AM – #199

To #193: Id yourself and THEN I'll give you my 2 cents. Otherwise, don't throw my name out there just because! - Vanessa Acuna


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David Klappholz on September 26, 2010, at 05:47AM – #200

Except for the fact that I'm very happy that Art Walk is, apparently, very much alive, all I have to say is that I respect those who post under their own names, but not those who post anonymously, especially not those whose posts are vulgar/nasty.


Guest 29

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 05:59AM – #201

To: David Klappholz #201 - Ditto! IMO people have all the right in the world to express opinions, thoughts, anger, frustrations, etc. BUT attacking people anonymously is just plain cowardly. - Vanessa Acuna


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() on September 26, 2010, at 06:46AM – #202

Holy Smokes. If this isn't a call to discontinue anon comments, then...wow.

I agree that the idea of "Artwalk" has become much larger than what can be handled with out police permits. I know it isn't as large as Fiesta Broadway, but when you think about the concentration of people Artwalk and FB seem very similar.

Fiesta Broadway does close down streets, requires a larger police presence, and portapotties. And, as far as I understand, it costs the FB folks money to put on FB. Why should Artwalk be treated any different.

If there's a silver lining - even Fiesta Broadway has experienced growing pains. Just look at BlogDowntown's coverage over the years:

2006: http://blogdowntown.com/2006/04/2203-get-ready-for-visitors 2008: http://blogdowntown.com/2008/04/3267-sunday-fiesta-broadway-brings-music-and-street 2009: http://blogdowntown.com/2009/04/4249-fiesta-broadway-returns-sunday 2010: http://blogdowntown.com/2010/03/5159-fiesta-broadway-moves-north


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Guest on September 26, 2010, at 07:13AM – #203

@ ginny - good morning :) indeed, anon postings should be discontinued! so frustrating!

i agree, fiesta broadway is quite similar to artwalk (on a smaller scale of course) and it definitely requires lots of sponsorship $$$ to put on fb year over year...the artwalk board should focus on securing quarterly, bi-annual, and annual sponsors (bronze, gold, platinum, etc) but i've yet to hear any of the board members shed light on the boards efforts to make it a sustainable event. sigh. - vanessa acuna


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Guest on September 26, 2010, at 07:46AM – #204

He admits, on video, to having collaborated with Bert Green to sabotage the Art Walk non-profit from even before my husband Richard Schave took over management of the event from Bert Green. http://vimeo.com/

I did watch that yesterday, Kim, and for some reason the points you emphasize kind of flew over my head. So I watched it again and now have to admit -- with embarrassment -- that I've been rather slow in wading through all this and figuring it out. I guess my altruistic interest in improving the city, and my respect for people who supposedly feel the same way -- and who supposedly behave accordingly -- made me overlook the finer points.

I notice that Russell Brown makes contradictory statements in the video. On one hand he says "forming the non-profit was something that really needed to be done." But on the other hand, he commented that he didn't believe Bert Green should agree to such an organization being implemented. Brown also claimed that you willfully shut down the website of the group. What irony! That's something he (and/or Jay Lopez, etc) did within the past 2 or 3 days!

And until you pointed out the timeline and details about Marc Loge, I only focused on his saying he stepped down in October 2009. I totally ignored the fact that after you and your husband resigned, Loge then came back aboard to the Art Walk organization.

I apologize to you for not seeing through all the haze! It did take the ridiculous power play of Bert Green (and Jay Lopez) on Friday to validate what you've been saying all along.

This is like one of those movies where the character everyone believes is the heavy or hero/heroine (or bad guy) in the beginning, and the character who everyone believes at the same time is the good guy (or the white knight in shining armor), end up switching places during the final chapter of the plot. And then the viewer gasps and feels so confused and stunned for having believed otherwise.

Thanks, Kim, for clarifying everything for me and hopefully others (particularly people such as Eric Richardson who are covering the story) about what really took place.

Based on what I now know, if I soon hear about Bert Green tucking his tail between his legs and leaving Los Angeles, I wouldn't be surprised. Which in a way would be a shame since he did play an important role in reviving a part of downtown. But it appears that his ego and the vision of dollars dancing in front of him -- which might explain his resistance to the idea of turning the Art Walk organization over to a third-party non-profit entity -- got the better of him.


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Guest on September 26, 2010, at 07:49AM – #205

^ I wrote "That's something he (and/or Jay Lopez, etc) did within the past 2 or 3 days!" The "he" should have been replaced with "Bert Green." I now may be skeptical about Russell Brown, but I'm not THAT skeptical or cynical!


Guest 29

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 08:10AM – #206

May I ask, why do most of you hide behind a computer screen? I just don't get it. We're all adults here, right? And we all claim to "love" Downtown, Artwalk, and urban living, right? So what's the deal? Come on people, step it up! If you truly want to make a difference, then offer solutions, id yourself, and make yourself approachable for further details on how your master plan can lead us to a better, more successful Arwalk and future community events. - Vanessa Acuna


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Guest on September 26, 2010, at 08:12AM – #207

From Harry Webber:

To those of you who have contacted us your voicing concerns that we somehow intend to compete with the efforts to sustain Art Walk as a monthly event, our position is now clearly stated at:

http://IdeaWalk.org

Thank you.


Guest 29

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 08:17AM – #208

To Harry: Thank you. I just visited your site, but I don't see a link to a "suggestion box" or online "idea" submission form. Please help. -Vanessa Acuna


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Jack M on September 26, 2010, at 08:23AM – #209

Seems to me that the Executive Director had a chance to monetize the Art Walk and failed to do so during his stint as the nonprofit's leader. He acted unilaterally as many can attest to without the board's permission and pulled the plug on art walk because of he could not lead the art walk the way it should be lead. This was and hopefully is a great event--yes there's drinking, and some chaos but many people I know did come down for the art. To say you're going to pull the plug on something that affects so many people instead of stepping down for someone more qualified to take over is just pure ego. I feel sorry that Downtown LA Art Walk has had such bad leadership since last December.


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Guest on September 26, 2010, at 08:42AM – #210

@ Jack M. : First, thank you for NOT posting anonymously :) Second, I don't know Jay well enough to judge whether or not he is qualified to successfully manage Artwalk. Third, what I do know is that in most non-profits it is the boards responsibility to fund raise and seek sponsorships. Lastly, Board Directors usually don't have a vote.

So where are the Artwalk board members now? These may be volunteer positions, BUT there is still a level of accountability that must be met. I would really like to learn more about the Boards efforts to actively seek private or public dollars to help sustain the monthly event.

Instead of placing blame on one or two, or even three specific individuals...Why not confront those who ARE a part of the existing Artwalk board?

I hardly doubt this is about ego & power. IMO this is about an inactive Board that has failed to create a financial support system. In fact, does the Artwalk even need a Board? Would we even be in this position if the Artwalk had not been placed under a California public benefit corporation? -Vanessa Acuna


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Jack M on September 26, 2010, at 08:46AM – #211

You all should read the post from Wicks Walker who is a member of the Art Walk board. Of all the stories I've heard circulating around, his is the most accurate. Jay Lopez and whoever else seized control of the Downtown Art Walk site and sent out a press release without the board's buy in. Jay and company do no want to see Art Walk go on without their short sighted vision. Art Walk will go on with or without Jay, Bert, et al.


Guest 29

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 08:55AM – #212

@ Jack M: Where can I find Mr. Walker's posts? And of course, the Artwalk will continue (the format is still up in the air, but it will indeed resurface)...Turn over is a good thing, "new blood" offers the opportunity to present multifaceted ideas, expand on existing platforms, and correct past mistakes. -Vanessa Acuna


Julie Rico on September 26, 2010, at 08:56AM – #213

WOW! I am so sorry to see this happening. Just for the record there were two gallerists at a DLANC meeting backing up Kim and Richard. I was one of them. They really did a lot of good things for the artwalk. Their vision was taking it in the right direction. I really think that they are the only people, that can really lead the artwalk to the place it needs to be, with the right kind of sponsorship, but with the integrity of the art community in tact. More art needs to be inserted to the artwalk. I went to the idea website and well there is nothing there. Please get Richard and Kim back on board as leaders of the board. These strange problems will disappear. They are honest and have a PR company in place that is all about producing. WOW! But yes we really did try to tell you all.


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Guest on September 26, 2010, at 09:18AM – #214

"May I ask, why do most of you hide behind a computer screen? I just don't get it. "

Vanessa, maybe you're new to all of this, but anyone who puts himself out there as Kim Cooper has done ends up being smeared and barbecued. Bert Green and especially Russell Brown would love to sink their teeth into someone else now in order to cause a distraction.

Russell Brown already tore into Kim Cooper and Don Noyes More just because he suspected them of posting anonymously (see post #176).

Kim Cooper, you've done a great job explaining Russell Brown's character. You know Bert Green. Could you explain to the rest of us why he has acted the way he did. What do you suspect he's up to right now?


Guest 29

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 09:25AM – #215

To #215: so what you're saying is that it's better to conceal one's identity than to be forthright? i disagree and offer no apologies for being outspoken.

the only ones i see doing the smearing and bbq'g are those posting anonymously.

no, i am not new to forums. hello? i'm in advertising/ marketing, i do this everyday, all day! lol -Vanessa Acuna


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Guest on September 26, 2010, at 09:32AM – #216

I was one of them.

Sorry, Julie Rico, but as the saying goes, "even a broken clock tells the correct time twice a day." In light of the controversy between you and The Must, I'd think you'd want to remain in the background.

One of the reasons I originally took Bert Green at face value was because of his excoriating you -- and rightly so -- for your dealings with The Must. But now I have to wonder if it wasn't just as much a case of, as another saying goes, "it takes one to know one."


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Guest on September 26, 2010, at 09:40AM – #217

It won't all be sunshine and fuzzy kittens, I promise.

Kim, I guess another reason I was originally suspicious of you was due to your name being somehow associated with Julie Rico's. I do vaguely recall reading about Ms. Rico being supportive of you. So when more came out about what makes her tick, I found myself going "ugh!" to anyone in or even near her circle of friends or acquaintances.


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Guest on September 26, 2010, at 09:44AM – #218

"hello? i'm in advertising/ marketing, i do this everyday"

Hello, Vanessa, you chose to use your name and you've taken a number of kicks to the rear because of that.

Maybe you're an old hand at forum knockdowns, but you're welcome to it. I don't care to be roasted publicly.

......and what's with "hello"? Who in the world knows who you are or what you do? Do you think you're a downtown household name? LOL!!


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Guest on September 26, 2010, at 09:46AM – #219

I thought Acuna was a car.


Kim Cooper on September 26, 2010, at 09:58AM – #220

Vanessa Acuna, your comment raises some very interesting questions about the power structure within non-profits, a topic this community had better come up to speed on soon. Russell Brown and Bert Green have had at least since January 2009 to meditate on that very topic.

You ask "In fact, does the Artwalk even need a Board? Would we even be in this position if the Artwalk had not been placed under a California public benefit corporation?"

If the Art Walk were not in a California public benefit corporation, it would no longer exist. We know this because Bert Green's plans were to cancel it in spring of 2009. That's why we agreed to take over management of the event, and why we placed it in a non-profit--to protect against the capricious decisions of a few burned-out people impacting the cultural life of the many. We felt Art Walk belonged to everyone, and that it wasn't right for Bert Green to pull the plug simply because he didn't like what it had turned into.

It is true that Bert Green did not wish to put Art Walk into a non-profit. But he knew it was our intention to do this from January 2009. Even after handing off management of the event to my husband Richard Schave through a six-month transition period, when the non-profit was formed he then refused to sign over the intellectual property of the event to the non-profit, but didn't say why. Instead of stating honestly that he had changed his mind during the transition process and no longer wanted Richard to take over and create a non-profit, he went on to surreptitiously sabotage the non-profit and smear us in the community.

Confusion on both Bert Green's and Russell Brown's sides about what a non-profit is and what it "owns" is revealed in Russell's grievance hearing video (link below)--it is a poor understanding at best. Russell's conflicting statements that no one should own the Art Walk, and hence his and Bert's reservations about Richard putting it into a non-profit, show how confused they were about what a California public benefit corporation is, and who "owns" it. For Russell to publicly testify that he told Bert Green not to sign the IP assignment, because nobody should "own" Art Walk, is absurd. The refusal simply indicates that they don't know what they're doing, or that that they decided the non-profit path was not in their own best interests.

http://vimeo.com/

To answer your question about what Art Walk would look like without a board, flash back to May 2009. Art Walk was a privately-controlled event with no corporate structure, managed by a single individual who was no longer interested in furthering the event. Who "owned" Art Walk at that point? Did Gilmore Associates own Art Walk? Did the HDBID own Art Walk? DLANC? Bert Green? The galleries?

Now there is a structure that allows you to start answering the question of who owns it. And it has a board of, we assume, competent individuals whose job it is to now start explaining what is going on with this event held in the public trust. I guarantee the answers are going to be a lot better than the ones you would have gotten in May 2009.

Another point, it is true, most Executive Directors do not have a vote, because they do not actually sit on their non-profit boards. That is a decision each board gets to make. Richard was the founding Executive Director who put the board together, and he also sat as a voting member. That may be why Russell Brown and Bert Green worked so hard to remove him last year.


Guest 10

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 09:59AM – #221

Don't believe the hype. Seek truth and the truth will set you free.


Guest 29

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 10:59AM – #222

To #219: Me a household name? Not at all. Are you? Wait, I wouldn't know since you choose not to be "publicly roasted"...Well, the only thing I like roasted are my chickens.

To #220: Acura, not Acuna. Silly ;)

To Kim Cooper: Thank you for answering my questions without being nasty. -Vanessa Acuna


Guest 4

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 11:22AM – #223

As humbly as possible.

I believe that the attempted lynching of a few people we know on here, such as Richard, Kim etc. was seriously wrong, unjust, and was done outside any norms of decency or good behaviour. It was wrong and the information presented to us all was incorrect, lies and distortions. I truly believe we all have been duped and purposely misinformed. This is why we need democratic processes that follow American standards of fair play, free speech and the right to be heard in our neighborhood organizations. There now should be open hearings for the community on Art Walk and what has happened, so that "You can do anything you want" - Bert Green- never happens again. Bert Green does not respect the rule of law nor the standards of democracy. Russell Brown is calling for business as usual. Too late, we all went down that road before. People it's time to take our beloved Art Walk back. God bless you all and God bless Downtown.


Guest 33

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 11:39AM – #224

So, is this social networking?! People mocking and ridiculing each other in the comfort of their living room? This is barbaric.

Come to your senses people! Solutions to problems do not happen this way.

Blogdowntown needs to shut this down before it gets anymore out of control.


Guest 48

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 11:45AM – #225

Hope Art Walk isn't history.

It brings so many good things to the Historic Core on a monthly basis; it allows HC to shine. I'm no urban planner, but it seems to me that Art Walk has staked out a positive definition of downtown and changed some hearts and minds of Angelenos about other ways of seeing and enjoying downtown without paying to go to Staples Center or Disney Hall or the Music Center. I like the Lakers as much as the next guy, and I think Disney Hall is worth a visit. But the monthly energy of Art Walk is something to behold too. Granted, it doesn't happen by magic, the planners and organizers of Art Walk make it happen. I hope the planners and organizers solicit some input and ideas from those who want to invest time and energy and money in keeping Art Walk alive. There's gotta be a viable solution out there.


Guest 1

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 11:45AM – #226

Man, do I agree with #225. SHUT THIS DOWN. No one on here knows the current facts and all this speculation is not helping anyone, or anything about downtown, art walk, the galleries, the businesses and it's residents. END THIS ERIC!


Guest 4

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 11:46AM – #227

Shut down the voices of the people? Same antidemocratic rants. We did that before. They don't want the truth to come out. If this is shut down we will all see where BlogDowntown stands on this matter, information restrictions.


Guest 4

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 11:56AM – #228

Ever have the feeling that the people calling for this to be shut down may be the same people being spoken of? It's sort of like when the Communits and fascists and the like cannot stand to hear the voices of the good people of dtla. "Off to the Gulag you democtatic protesters."


Guest 33

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 12:00PM – #229

To #228:

This is no longer democratic. People cussing each other out and behaving this way is NOT democratic - its barbaric and destructive.

This social media "conversation" has now come to a point where nothing productive will come of it.

Just as newspapers (and blogs) have a responsibility to provide an open forum, they also have a responsibility to recognize when a conversation has become destructive and potentially dangerous. We have now come to that point.

That is democratic. That is the right thing to do.


Guest 4

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 12:15PM – #230

#228 Democracy is about allowing all points of view. Read about free speech my friend. Did some people just not learn anything in civics class? And where was your voice when the Green Posse went after Kim and Richard and others @ this blog? Silent. Hypocrite. This is no more than an attempt to shut down the people of Downtown, yet again.


Guest 12

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 12:32PM – #231

I thought nothing could top the insane rants that spewed out of the must stories but i was way wrong. i'm nominating this thread for 'most psychotic downtown thread' of the year!


Guest 4

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 12:47PM – #232

Free speech = 'most psychotic downtown thread'? ahhh the voices that were silent before.


Guest 48

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 12:50PM – #233

As there are formal developments regarding this matter in the next few days or weeks, I trust the various leaders and stakeholders will keep the community apprised. Perhaps there should be an opportunity at the next DLANC meeting or another appropriate forum so that people can publicly voice their opinions about saying hasta la vista baby to Art Walk in this manner, or to suggest possible solutions to the real challenges faced by Art Walk. Is such a meeting on the horizon?


Guest 15

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 01:03PM – #234

I support the "break" from Art Walk until 2011.


Guest 33

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 01:03PM – #235

There are no longer points of view being shared on this blog. You cannot propogate lies about people, call people names and fan unruly behavior in the name of free speech. That is a mob mentality...this has become an "e-riot".

The reason I have not spoken up until now on this subject is because I have a life away from my computer screen. Secondly, it has taken until now to understand that this is now out of control.

I'm getting the feeling that there are people on this blog fanning this inflammatory conversation simply because they are "getting off" on it. This hurts the rest of us who turn to Blogdowntown as an open forum for constructive conversation.

Free speech should be allowed to continue after people calm down and are capable of having a RATIONAL conversation regarding the matter.


Guest 4

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 01:10PM – #236

You don't suspend free speech. What an amazing idea. Just another way to shut down the new information and the voices of the people. Especially after this Blog has allowed vicious attacks againt others and never did anything about it, and this included threats of physical violence. LEt the voices be heard that have been silenced before. Hold a public meeting.


Guest 4

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 01:14PM – #237

Support an investigation by the City attorney's office.


User_32

Youwinthisround on September 26, 2010, at 03:00PM – #238

False alarm! Hurray.


Guest 4

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 03:06PM – #239

ART WALK LIVES!! Victory for the people of Downtown and all the people of LA! Congratulations for People Power.


Guest 4

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 03:07PM – #240

ART WALK LIVES!! Victory for the people of Downtown and all the people of LA! Congratulations for People Power.


Guest 49

Guest on September 26, 2010, at 08:03PM – #241

As vicious as Kim's attacks have been towards Russel, she is absolutely right. He can't be trusted with any kind of power. The difference between Kim and Russell is that she lashes out with honest emotion. He, on the other hand, plots and smiles at everyone. The thought of him seeking a Council seat is truly frightening. And if you all really knew how power is brokered downtown you would understand the need for "Anon" comments.


Guest 50

Guest on September 27, 2010, at 03:44AM – #242

I would love to do an interview. This is Lexie and Michael, we own BANG gallery at 4th and Spring, and owned POPLOCK gallery. as a new resident and large member of the DTLA community we would certainly love to add our two cents. ;)


Kim Cooper on September 27, 2010, at 06:07AM – #243

The real issue here is why Russell Brown, the Executive Director of the local business improvement district (HDBID), has so much sway over a non-profit community event happening on public streets and in private businesses. That garbage collection bill is discretionary, and something that was withheld for years--until the month that someone other than Russell Brown took office as President of the Downtown LA Neighborhood Council (DLANC) -- a position he held simultaneously with Executive Directorship of the BID. Why?

And last I checked, the City of LA is responsible for trash collection. Just because a BID volunteers to do this in their neighborhood does not give them the right to make public policy or threats surrounding this voluntary community service.

When my husband Richard Schave ran Art Walk, we talked about enlisting some of the hundreds of Art Walk volunteers to help with trash collection. A crew of paid "Purple People" are not actually necessary to do this simple work, which could be handled for much less than that $6-10,000/month cost cited by Russell Brown on Blogdowntown Saturday. How much does it really cost to buy some cardboard trash bins and bin liners, and either pay or get people to volunteer to empty them and get the full bags to a trash collection site during an evening event? I'd like to see the cost breakdown.


Kim Cooper on September 27, 2010, at 06:28AM – #244

Guest #49, I am not attacking Russell Brown, I am educating the community about the dangers of attempting to work with him, especially surrounding the matter of what to do about Art Walk. His record speaks for itself.

When my husband Richard Schave and I left the Art Walk board due to Russell Brown's harassment, we stated we felt we could do more good for our community off the board than on it. Speaking out, filing grievances and talking with elected officials are all part of our continued community service to Art Walk and downtown.


Guest 49

Guest on September 27, 2010, at 09:48AM – #245

Doesn't it make sense to promote downtown as a viable destination for guests and tourist EVERYDAY? The conflict going on over Artwalk was predictable and completely unnecessary.

First, if we were to focus on the real need for garbage collection and security for ALL of downtown, as a base level of City service, we wouldn't have special interest groups fighting over it.

Second, we are so programmed to think that the only reason why somebody would come downtown is for an "event" that we don't realize that a certain number of people on the street should be a normal condition in a dense urban core. If there were 10,000 people on the street every night, instead of 15,000 people on the street only one night a month, there would be no "event" and and it would be less likely that streets would need to be closed. There would be fewer fees levied by the City or the BID. Instead there would be a City/BID marketing campaign to get people to come downtown, "The Heartbeat of the City".

And finally, the idea that LA Live, Broadway, and the Old Bank District can be governed by two different Council Districts, without a unified plan, is just ridiculous. We need a single Downtown Council District.


Guest 4

Guest on September 27, 2010, at 10:07AM – #246

BID/DLANC/ART WALK Kick-backs, special deals, "favors" and payoffs. It has been the buzz of years now all we need do is follow the dots.


Guest 49

Guest on September 27, 2010, at 10:23AM – #247

Doesn't it make sense to promote downtown as a viable destination for guests and tourist EVERYDAY? The conflict going on over Artwalk was predictable and completely unnecessary.

First, if we were to focus on the real need for garbage collection and security for ALL of downtown, as a base level of City service, we wouldn't have special interest groups fighting over it.

Second, we are so programmed to think that the only reason why somebody would come downtown is for an "event" that we don't realize that a certain number of people on the street should be a normal condition in a dense urban core. If there were 10,000 people on the street every night, instead of 15,000 people on the street only one night a month, there would be no "event" and and it would be less likely that streets would need to be closed. There would be fewer fees levied by the City or the BID. Instead there would be a City/BID marketing campaign to get people to come downtown, "The Heartbeat of the City".

And finally, the idea that LA Live, Broadway, and the Old Bank District can be governed by two different Council Districts, without a unified plan, is just ridiculous. We need a single Downtown Council District.


Rex Bruce on September 27, 2010, at 12:31PM – #248

I hope everyone find these updates and discussions useful. Being that I am a gallerist and supporter of Gallery Row, I am also an advocate for the well being of District 9, L.A. and especially those involved in the arts and renewal projects proliferating here. My hope is my activities are constructive in nature and galvanize forward movement towards fulfilling the wide variety needs and hopes of my community in an open varied expression and democratic manner.

At this point, it is evident some strong clashes amongst some community members need to be resolved. There are funding issues, and clearly undesirable elements or happenstance occurring at the Art Walk that need to be reckoned with. A new director who can even handedly address all of these needs must be found, and much should be discussed and weighed in on before any moves are made to set forth afresh with an event that effects the livelihoods, careers, lifestyles and vitality of so many of our citizens in so many differing ways.


Kim Cooper on September 27, 2010, at 01:07PM – #249

Rex, I respect your judgment as a pioneering Downtown gallerist, but unfortunately, nothing is going to change by putting a new director, however well meaning, at the head of Art Walk.

No director can properly function or serve the community, due to the underlying issues that derail all attempts for Art Walk to function as the non-profit it was created to be. A full and official inquiry and a clean slate are the only options I see for salvaging this entity.


Guest 51

Guest on September 27, 2010, at 02:30PM – #250

Artwalk didn't start getting out of hand until Jay was in charge. The main complaints have been the unruly visitors that trash the neighborhood as of the past 6 months... Under Jay's command. But just look at him, he hangs out with Edgar Varela all the time, and they both look like scrubs, NOT successful art minded professionals.   They think they can say or do whatever they want and The rest of the world can just deal with their mess... empty headed underaged drunks will fill whatever they put on, giving the semblance that there are "attendees." Well, you're not considered successful in the community because you can pack a "club" with lame bodies. I've never seen such horrible people as those that Edgar brings to anything that bears his name. They are all cronies, thriving on each others BS.   Jay is always with Edgar and Edgar pays rent to Bert Green inside his "gallery" which closes early on Art Walk.  Coincidence? prolly NOT! End this old regime of bottom feeders! Not that Kim or Richard had a clue either, but I have confidence that things will get better without the terrible 3.


Friskie Buffet on September 27, 2010, at 05:04PM – #251

another dysfunctional drama rears its ugly head in DTLA.


Guest 52

Guest on September 27, 2010, at 08:32PM – #252

You like artwalk? You hate artwalk? Now's your chance to make it better. Put your money where your mouth is! Instead of picking on people, since artwalk will happen, why don't we all spread the word on making artwalk cleaner & safer? Take an active role artwalk night about the issues.

Say something when you see someone doing stupid Annoying things. "Dont crowd the sidewalks by taking the whole sidewalk up, walk single file BEHIND each other, not parallel."
"Be courteous." "Throw trash away in garbage cans, not the street." "Don't cross the street in front of cars." "It is not necessary to bother everyone trying to walk with your stupid bike or skateboard rolling over their feet." "Having a bad night? Stay home instead of tagging or breaking stuff."

Remember, ITS NOT ALWAYS ABOUT YOU! It won't kill you to let someone pass. To be friendly & courteous.

Only in moronic selfish LA do folks have to learn how to function cooperatively in a big city. That's what keeps it behind the times & from being a world class city. Let's get the word out about how making artwalk better comes from every visitor.


Guest 53

Guest on September 28, 2010, at 11:14AM – #253

I think blogdowntown should sponsor a cage match. cooper, schave, bert g, russell, jay, julie rico et al. can finally settle their differences, and the rest of us can all look forward to not listening to them piss in each other's ears at every opportunity. There's a lot more to DTLA.



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